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What German concetration camp was the worst.
Jul 28, 2008 7:30 AM
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Every body talk about Auswitz because is more famous. But Germans Treblinka or Sobibor was the worst humans conditions. Small Treblinka killed around 1 million people it really Germans wonder dead put on factory stile. It was Germans dead factory where 1 millions killed just
Treblinka was a death camp built 60 miles north-east of Warsaw. Treblinka's sole purpose was to murder. Whereas Auschwitz-Birkenau had factories attached to the vast complex there, Treblinka did not. Compared to a camp such as Auschwitz, Treblinka was very small - just 400 metres by 600 metres in size. In total, the camp covered just 17 hectares. However, unlike Auschwitz, it did not need space as 99% of those who arrived at Treblinka were dead within two hours.
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Re: What German concetration camp was the worst.
Jul 28, 2008 7:48 AM
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So by your reasoning,if you kill a million people in one place it's worse than killing them in different places?
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Re: What German concetration camp was the worst.
Jul 28, 2008 8:35 AM
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Dont be narrow minded and keep talking about how bad this was or that was on the eastern front 24/7 "RED" !
There were plenty of Camps in Germany and there was Westerbork in the Netherlands that could compare in Horrors as to the Top worst camp in that System.....
What was the worst Gulag in Russia or the Eastern Block when there was a Eastern Block ?
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Re: What German concetration camp was the worst.
Jul 28, 2008 8:47 AM
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I only said that you don't need mention Auswitz you better say about Treblika. Which was extermination camp not consetration one
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Re: What German concetration camp was the worst.
Jul 28, 2008 2:13 PM
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> Every body talk about Auswitz because is more famous.
> But Germans Treblinka or Sobibor was the worst humans
> conditions. Small Treblinka killed around 1 million
> people it really Germans wonder dead put on factory
> stile. It was Germans dead factory where 1 millions
> killed just
> Treblinka was a death camp built 60 miles north-east
> of Warsaw. Treblinka's sole purpose was to murder.
> Whereas Auschwitz-Birkenau had factories attached to
> the vast complex there, Treblinka did not. Compared
> to a camp such as Auschwitz, Treblinka was very small
> - just 400 metres by 600 metres in size. In total,
> the camp covered just 17 hectares. However, unlike
> Auschwitz, it did not need space as 99% of those who
> arrived at Treblinka were dead within two hours.
Why are you worried about "league standings" all the camps had one purpose and that was to carry out the horror that was the "Final Solution". The perpetrators are all going to same circle of hell anyway.
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But the commies have the better shindigs in hell.
Jul 28, 2008 8:27 PM
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Why are you worried about "league standings" all the camps had one purpose and that was to carry out the horror that was the "Final Solution". The perpetrators are all going to same circle of hell anyway.
Stalin, Mao, and Kim Il Sung were much bigger party animals in life than Hitler and his cronies. It gets the Nazis jealous.
Hitler was a repressed teatoaling vegetarian how fun could he have been socially?. Mao and Stalin at least knew how to live it up: the numerous concubines, the fine dining [while their people starved], the free flowing booze. Neither of them really took their ideology seriously beyond, "praise me or die!"
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Re: But the commies have the better shindigs in hell.
Jul 29, 2008 3:48 AM
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'Why are you worried about "league standings" all the camps had one purpose and that was to carry out the horror that was the "Final Solution". The perpetrators are all going to same circle of hell anyway.'
Technically no, much as the desire of red army to prove that the worst camps were in the East is a little distasteful, the killing centers of Treblinka, Chelmo, Sobibor, Belzec and Auschwitz* were the camps specifically designed to carry out the Final Solution by gassing. Other camps such as Belsen and Dachau in the West were concentration or prison camps where political prisoners or, in the case of Belsen, where Himmler gathered some prominent Jews in the hope of using their lives as a bargaining tool with the allies. The conditions of these camps were terrible and many suffered and died but they did not contain the gas chambers that the camps in the East did.
I'm not making a judgement on where was more terrible, but thought I'd just put this common misconception right that all of the Nazi camps carried out the Final Solution.
*Auschwitz-Birkenau was part killing center part work camp, a mix of both.
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Re: What German concetration camp was the worst.
Jul 29, 2008 2:11 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulag
Mortality in GULAG camps in 1934-40 was 4-6 times higher than average in Russia. The estimated total number of those who died in imprisonment in 1930-1953 is 1.76 million, about half of which occurred between 1941-1943 following the German invasion.[35][36]
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Jul 29, 2008 4:07 PM
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What Russian camp was the worst? Katyn??? Talk about a stab in the back...
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Jul 29, 2008 5:42 PM
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Kytun wasn't concetration camp its was killing place. After many talk with Polish Pow, when polish refused to change their anti Soviet feeling and refused to recognized Soviet Western Ukraine and Belarusia. Politburo desided killed all who didn't been pro Soviet. Polish generals and officers were really contra revolution against Soviet regime and because Poland didn't exist as country all of their soldiers weren't considered as POW but as foreing unti soviets elements. Polutbero disided exucite Polish contru.
I think it was too much but in war time, they didn't have other chance. This Pols if were free united with pro Ukrane and Nazi regime. It was good that they kill them. The problem was that Soviets hided it.It would be better made court and execute if find guilty.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c1/Katyn_-_decision_of_massacre_p1.jpg
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Jul 29, 2008 5:51 PM
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> Soviet. Polish generals and officers were really
> contra revolution against Soviet regime and because
> Poland didn't exist as country all of their soldiers
> weren't considered as POW but as foreing unti soviets
> elements
Poland didn't exist as a country? What are you talking about? It certainly did until Nazi Germany and the USSR destroyed the 2nd Republic in September, 1939. They were lawful POWs under the Geneva Convention. They weren't "counterrevolutionaries," they were officers that were serving for, and eventually died for, their country. I wonder what Lenin would have said about Stalin signing a treaty of alliance with Hitler, a man who frequently called for wiping out communism. Wait, Lenin said Trotsky should've taken over, and Stalin used the NKVD to kill Trotsky instead. Convieniently for Stalin, he never signed the Geneva document. War criminal...
> pro Ukrane and Nazi regime. It was good that they
> kill them. The problem was that Soviets hided it.It
> would be better made court and execute if find guilty.
This is the most-confusing part. Which is it? It was good that the NKVD killed them? Or take them to court and execute the guilty for war crimes? I'm very confused by that one...
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Re: What German concetration camp was the worst.
Jul 29, 2008 6:32 PM
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Would someone bar this creep? Now he says the Katyn massacre was good! He is obviously sick in the head.
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Re: What German concetration camp was the worst.
Jul 30, 2008 12:53 AM
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Stalin new how to show his appreciation to those captured by Germans. Soviet citizens repatriated from wartime detention in foreign prisons and work camps are deemed to be traitors and are executed or deported to Soviet prison camps. Over 1.5 million Red Army soldiers imprisoned by the Germans are sent to the Gulag or to labour camps in Siberia and the far north. Stalin even disowns his surviving son, Vasily, who had been captured by the Germans in 1941.
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Re: What German concetration camp was the worst.
Jul 30, 2008 1:04 AM
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> north. Stalin even disowns his surviving son, Vasily,
> who had been captured by the Germans in 1941.
Yakov Stalin was disowned and killed, not Vasily.
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