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Aug 15, 2004 12:57 PM
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Field-Marshal Bernard Law Montgomery has scored yet another famous victory!.
In Glasgow, Scotland, on Saturday August 14th,2004,the Field Marshal Montgomery Pipe band from Northern Ireland, won the World Bagpiping Championships-so where is yer Ike Eisenhower and Geordie S. Patton noo!?.
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Re: Monty's latest victory!
Aug 15, 2004 2:09 PM
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If only those were southern Irish that won, I would think it an acomplishment. As it stands, It is no wonder that the Scots didn't win that. After, the are only half Irish to begin with. All Hail the IRA! Hoo-rahh!
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Re: Monty's latest victory!
Aug 15, 2004 8:20 PM
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Do you mind! Comparing the Ruddy Picts oop north to bloody Mick "terrorists"(that word sound familiar by any chance?). Dueced cheek sir!
I'm sure "The Schoolmaster"/Victor of Normandy(A tidy little battle, eh what!) would be proud however!
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Re: Monty's latest victory!
Aug 15, 2004 11:39 PM
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I thought it was funny. I guess everybody has at least one thing he likes to make fun of. I, for instance, i like to make fun of Ocidental Europeans who dress up as Native americans or far-easterners. But that's just me.
When the Romans get tough, the tough go Roman...
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Aug 16, 2004 9:49 AM
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El Alamein was NOT a decisive OFFENSIVE victory...in Sicily, his troops were stopped..in Normandy, his troops were stopped, [as mentioned in the Falaise post, it was Monty's fault], Monty's market-garden was another failure, he didn't open up the Scheldt estuary for the CRITICAL supply situation, etc,,etc,,,Monty was a loser....
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El Alamein was NOT a decisive OFFENSIVE victory.
Aug 17, 2004 2:03 AM
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Bronk, if Alamein wasn't an offensive operation, what was it? Monty attacked Rommel's forces that had been stopped (to use your term) on the El Alaemein line. He attacked those forces in a set piece battle, defeated them and pursued them (though poorly). To anyone else, that's the definition of an offensive operation: Attack, Defeat, Pursue.
You don't like Monty? The least you could do, then, is stick to the facts when rubbishing him. Monty was an over-egotistical boor who took too much credit and claimed credit he didn't deserve. No argument about that. But he's well matched in ego and credit-claiming by more than one US general of the time. Why don't you rubbish some of them?
Dal.
If "The System" is the answer, who asked such a bloody silly question?
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Aug 17, 2004 4:36 AM
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1. Monty had overwhelming advantages[supplies being the big one,intelligence, etc..] at Alamein..2. not only that, he was in the defense at first,...the Germans were ATTACKING HIM..so this doesn't appear to look like great generalship by Monty<>just fortify the position and wait for the disadvantaged attacker...2. after stopping the UNDERSUPPLIED Germans, Monty couldn't immediately break through the German line...Monty had all the advantages, and he didn't breed these either...if you think stopping an under supplied attacker is a great offensive victory, then that's your opinion. ty 4 r
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Re: Monty's latest victory!
Aug 17, 2004 5:07 AM
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Where can I get a CD of this championship battle so that I may decide for myself? Email richmond@vicksburg.com
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Aug 17, 2004 10:50 AM
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I was sent on a course once to a training centre which had a large sports field. Every lunchtime, one of the staff there would take his bagpipes out into the middle of the field and practice. To be fair to his neighbours, you could see why he couldn't practice at home. He was not the world's greatest piper!
Anyway, as he practiced, he would walk up and down the field. I happened to wonder out loud, "Why does he do that?", to which a Scotsman, my fellow student, replied, "Because it's harder to hit a moving target!"
Seriously, though, Toom, I love the pipes - played well- and this includes the Highland bagpipes, although my favourite is the Northumbrian pipes.
There are, of course, many different types of bagpipes and they are played in many cultures around the world.
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Re: A moving target You're so right Angie!
Aug 17, 2004 5:11 PM
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During a visit to London, England, two years ago, I happened on a young Spanish loking guy standing playing a strange looking bagpipe on Westminster Bridge, right beside the House of Commons, our mother of parliaments.
Intrigued, I asked him if he was Spanish and he replied 'Yes-I am from Galicia'
Which I know only as the birthplace of Francisco Franco, dictator of Spain from 1939-75, El Caudillo being born in El Ferrol on the coast of Galicia.
As he was busking I gave him a contribution while he he confirmed that Galicians, like we Scots,the Irish and Welsh, are of Celtic origin, hence the Galician version of the bagpipes that he played.
Good day!, Dal, nice defence of Monty!.Monty was a far better General than Friedendall that US Army 'hero' who crapped it at Kasserine Pass in 1943-Monty, with Commonwealth help, defeated Rommel-Friedendall's GI's ran like thieves from the Afrika Corps.
Although I agree he was an egotistical boor.
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Re: Monty's latest victory! Okay I will try to find out
Aug 17, 2004 5:22 PM
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Mr Richmond Virginia. A friend of mine, a Scottish boxing champion called Joe Kelly, fought in Richmond VA several years ago.He defeated an Afro-American citizen of Richmond VA, called Reggie Brown-on February 18 1990 in Richmond.Joe remembers the people of Richmond, VA. he met with with great affection.Will send you info on CD of World Pipe Band championships ASAP.
Did you know that under the Geneva Convention the bagpipes are classified as a weapon of war?.
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Aug 17, 2004 5:43 PM
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"Did you know that under the Geneva Convention the bagpipes are classified as a weapon of war?."
Perhaps under the chapters dealing with treatment of prisoners? "No prisoner of war shall be subjected to bagpipe music unless the player has achieved a resonable level of proficiency.."????
Actually, I love to listen to the pipes. A few years back we went to a celebration which had quite a few bands present. It was held at the Peace Arch at the border crossing between Blaine, Washington and British Columbia. Bands from both sides of the border participated. The "Peace Arch" on the border has an inscription that begins "Children of a common mother...."
Our visitors from Japan used to be so amazed that we could just drive right through the border into Canada and back, with very little fuss. (They had to show their passports, however). Border security is a lot tighter now, however, after 9/11. Getting into Canada from the U.S. is easy, but getting back into the U.S. from Canada takes some time.
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Aug 17, 2004 6:02 PM
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What does your post have to do with the subject under discussion?
So you like bagpipes. Good for you.
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Re: Weapon of War? NOW NOW GRIESBACH
Aug 17, 2004 6:47 PM
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Bagpipes played a role in WW2 just ask any British Army veterans of that conflict.When the Eight Army did a victory parade in Tunisia in 1943 the marching allied troops were led by bagpipers so the pipes have every thing to do with WW2.Even that vet of the Solomon Islands campaign,John F Kennedy had the Black Watch pipe band perform on the White House lawn because one of his PT 109 fellow officers and one of his enlisted men- when it got sliced by a Jap destroyer- were born in Scotland.
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Re: Weapon of War? NOW NOW GRIESBACH
Aug 17, 2004 8:36 PM
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Thank you for the brief lesson about the place of bagpipes in WWII History.
You will be surprised to note that rhp6033 did not write anything in his previous post that relates to WWII History. Hence my comment.
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