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END OF THE WORLD 4990 B.C + 2011 - 1 = 7,000 POINTS TO 5/21/211...
Jun 26, 2009 8:13 PM
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But, Beloved, Be Not Ignorant Of This One Thing, That One Day Is With The LORD As A Thousand Years, And A Thousand Years As One Day."
[II PETER 3:8].....
Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished. But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
These events fit together, indicating that, indeed, our initial understanding of the unfolding of the timeline of history becomes increasingly solidified by the language of the Bible.
When we examine the biblical Time Line of History we found that May 21, 2011, which is the last day of the 8,400-day, or 23 full years, Great Tribulation.
Remember, we learned that it is to be followed by a final 153-day [5 months] period that ends on October 21, 2011. We find this in the book of REVELATION 9:5-6. Where all the unsaved people all over the world will be tormented day & night for 153 days, which equal to 5 months.
And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man. And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them
"Since both May 21 and October 21 occur in the year 2011, which we are learning is to be the final year of the existence of the world, we should examine that year very carefully".
One Day is as a Thousand Years. God calls our attention to that year in a most compelling way. In II Peter 3:6, God speaks of the flood that destroyed the whole world in Noah’s day, and there we read: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished.
Then in the next verse, God speaks about the awful judgment that will take place at the end of the world. We read in verse 7. But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
Immediately following these two verses, God makes a most curious statement in II Peter 3:8, where we read: But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
"What is the “one thing” that is in view when God says that He wants all the elect, who are the “beloved” of God, to be not ignorant of this one thing? It must be super-important, and God insists that they are to know this."
This one thing has entirely to do with time. God says, “one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.” Immediately we see that God is speaking of this one thing two times. That is, first, He declares, “one day is . . . as a thousand years.”
Then He repeats this information by saying, “a thousand years as one day.” This further greatly enhances the importance of the fact that all true believers are to absolutely know that a day is a thousand years.
Remember, Pharaoh dreamed first about seven fat cows that became skinny, and then about seven fat ears of corn that became thin. In connection with this event, God set forth a Biblical principle in Genesis 41:32...
where we read: And for that the dream was doubled unto Pharaoh twice; it is because the thing is established by God, and God will shortly bring it to pass.
The law that God sets forth in this verse is that when God doubles a statement, it underscores the absolute truth of it. Whatever will happen is guaranteed to happen, and it will happen soon.
Thus, by doubling the statement that one day is as a thousand years, God is telling us that it is extremely important, and it absolutely will soon come to pass.
But how does that relate to the context of II Peter 3, where God speaks of two worldwide judgments.
The judgment of Noah’s day and the judgment of our day? When we look carefully at the flood account given in Genesis Chapter 7, we find our answer.
We must consider the ark, the huge ship that God commanded Noah to build. We read in Genesis 7:1-4:
And the LORD said unto Noah, Come thou and all thy house into the ark; for thee have I seen righteous before me in this generation. Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female. Of fowls also of the air by sevens, the male and the female; to keep seed alive upon the face of all the earth.
"For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth."
Spiritually, the waters of the flood represented the judgment of God upon the wicked of all the world of Noah’s day.
The "ARK" represented "SAFETY" from that judgment, so it represented our "Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ", who alone can protect us from judgment.
The animals represented the whole creation, which looks to Christ for deliverance from the bondage of corruption (Romans 8:19- 23). This will occur when God brings into being the new heavens and the new earth.
"Thus, in Genesis 7, God is effectively saying that all of mankind in the whole world have seven days to get into the safety of Christ, who alone can save us from the wrath of God."
"But wait a minute. Did not God insist in II Peter 3 that we must absolutely know that a day is as a thousand years? Let us substitute 7,000 years for seven days."
Therefore, effectively, God was telling Noah that all of mankind who would ever live in the whole world have 7,000 years to get into the safety of Christ, if they are to escape the wrath of God.
"What year would be exactly 7,000 years after the flood of Noah’s day? Would you believe it! Long ago we learned that the flood occurred in the year 4990 B.C., and 7,000 years later brings us to the year 2011."
"Remember, we add the Old Testament years to the New Testament years and subtract 1 year, because there is no year zero. 4990 + 2011 - 1 = 7,000 years."
Thus, we must understand that God is definitely declaring that He expects that all of the elect of God would absolutely know that the year 2011 is to be the end of the world.
God is the same Yesterday and Today and he will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his prophets and every prophet is a "True Believers"...
The Final Five Months:
But there is more to be said. We have learned that there is a five-month period of time that immediately follows the 8,400-day great tribulation period. What is happening during that time?
This final five months that begins on May 21, 2011, is intensely focused on God’s salvation plan as well as on His judgment plan. We will discover that on the first day of that five months, which is May 21, 2011, all of the true believers are to be raptured to be forever with Christ.
We will also discover it is the day when the judgment of hell begins for all of the unsaved. In Revelation 9, the Bible speaks of a time when hell will begin on this earth.
It encompasses a time of five months (verses 5 and 10). The chapter begins with the words that “the bottomless pit” (a synonym for hell), is opened and the smoke as of a great furnace came forth.
At that time, those who had been convinced they were saved because they had been teachers and preachers of the Bible, but were not saved, and they had not been raptured, are still trying to teach their wrong understanding of the Bible.
They are typified by locusts [verse 3], and are ruled over by Abaddon [destruction] and Apollyon [destroyer] [verse 11], and are hurting those who are living on the earth at that time.
However, they are not to hurt those who have the seal of God on their foreheads. The essence of hell is to receive the payment of eternal destruction, to be destroyed forever.
And to be destroyed forevermore is to never come to a conscious existance anymore or will never come back to life ever again. Once a person, died unsaved it shall be destroyed. The Bible is clear, the WAGES of SINS is DEATH...
That is why these unsaved people are ruled over by Abaddon and Apollyon (Revelation 9:11), which are names that describe the essence of hell. Because they are in hell during these final five months of hell on earth, it is guaranteed that all of the unsaved will be destroyed forever.
They never, never again will be alive. They, as well as the entire universe, will be annihilated. They cannot hurt the true believers who have the seal of God on their foreheads because the true believers are never to experience hell.
The true believers will be raptured (caught up into heaven), the moment this final five months of hell on earth begins....
The bible stated it clear, there's no suchs thing called HELL, that when a person died "unsaved" will be burned up forever and ever. The bible teaches us, that the unsaved will exprience the torments, day & night for for 5 months only, NOT FOREVER and EVER...
The only reason God has open our eyes to spiritual truth, it is - Because we are now living in the end of time, when all the "True Believers" shall discern both "Time and Judgment Process of God."
The only reason why GOD is given us the date of judgment - It is only because of his MERCY!.Today, is still the day of SALVATION when the holy spirit are still pouring out and no man can number that are getting saved...
But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love, and for a helmet the hope of salvation. For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our LORD JESUS CHRIST...
GOTO website "FAMILYRADIO" to find out more evidence that we are now living in the end of time.
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Re: END OF THE WORLD 4990 B.C + 2011 - 1 = 7,000 POINTS TO 5/21/211...
Jun 26, 2009 8:18 PM
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Hummm...the 4990 BCE figure suggests that you are one who bleieves that "Creation" happened 'bout 6000 years ago.
You couldn't be more wrong. The Earth is roughly 4.5 billion years old. The Sun was born about 5.5 billion years ago. The Universe itself was born in the Big Bang roughly 20 billion years ago.
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Re: END OF THE WORLD 4990 B.C + 2011 - 1 = 7,000 POINTS TO 5/21/211...
Jun 27, 2009 5:25 PM
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Hmmm...Where did you get this figure from a genius scientist, who thinks they know it all...Scientist, has no clue whatsoever, 4.5 billions years ago? Common everybody knows, it all guess with no facts at all...Don't fool yourself with this kind of idea. We don't even have a clue how this universe came to existant, and how life started here on earth...
According to the biblical time line of history the Earth has been only around for 13,000 years old and the universe is very young. When God, created Adam he was full blown young adult. The universe may look of old in the eyes of man. But, in God's eyes it is very young. Let me give you an illustrations.
THE BIBLE SAYS THE EARTH IS 13,000 YEARS OLD AND THE UNIVERSE IS VERY YOUNG:
Th light of Biblical statements, as well as in the light of the evidence obtained from studies of the oceans. This conclusion may be supported by the following secular evidences:
a. Elements in the ocean water are not found in a saturated condition. From this, one could deduce the flow of chemicals into the ocean was a short-time phenomenon.
b. Proportions of elements found in the water or on the ocean floor are in no relationship whatsoever to the proportions found in the continents. Such variables are resistance to erosion, water transportability, solubility, and others, over a very short period of weathering accord with these extreme differences in chemical proportions. Again, the conclusion seems most logical that the oceans are very young.
c. The fact that many of the chemicals in ocean solution are present in amounts that could have accumulated within the last 1,000 years or less, if all rocks were equally susceptible to erosion, can be used dramatically to support a 13,000 year age of the earth. For this is precisely what would be expected in view of the differences in erosion resistance, solubility, etc. of the continental rocks. Elements in excess of those expected within 13,000 years could have accumulated from easily eroded rocks, whereas far less than that expected in 13,000 years of history would have accumulated from very hard rocks.
d. The concept of a very young earth is supported also by existence of a thin layer of sediments on the ocean floor. This is especially true when consideration is given to the cataclysmic worldwide flood of Noah’s day. That phenomenon alone could have caused erosion of enormous quantities of sediments for ocean solution and deposition. In fact, impact of a worldwide flood upon the oceans would have been so severe that no accurate estimate of time can ever be derived from ocean chemicals.
e. The fact that certain sales such as NaCl are in such abundance in ocean solution could be interpreted to mean that they have been present in essentially their present quantities from the very beginning.
The all-important conclusion remains, however, that even without considering the effect of the flood on the oceans, under no circumstance may the ocean evidence be used to deduce an age of millions of years. Then, when any recognition is given to the Noachian flood sediments which must be subtracted from the elements in the oceans, the contention for a very young ocean may be stated even more emphatically. The 13,000 year date of the Bible appears to be the only true alternative to popular concepts of a very old earth.
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Re: END OF THE WORLD 4990 B.C + 2011 - 1 = 7,000 POINTS TO 5/21/211...
Jul 23, 2009 5:32 PM
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[nobr][url]http://www.H2onE2.com[url/]
I would checkout my bookstore if I were you.
<table class="sample"><tr><th></th></tr></table>  The Book: H2onE2, Glacial Respiration, Conceptual Ring of Ice, The End of Western ReligionA Geological Exploration of an E2 Earthen Planet And the H2 Human Species
H2onE2 is an exploration of the universe, geology, climate, biology, humans, psychology, folklore and ancient structures to uncover the beginning and disclose the end of linear western religion. The true DaVinci Code behind the bible is not a supreme spiritual power but a scientific record of climate change described as Glacial Respiration. The Greek philosophers originated the practice of communicating a hidden idea or message in the short story format, as a metaphor. In the bible, metaphors conceal historic climate change within the fanciful stories. The theory of Glacial Respiration explains the myth behind the Holy Grail, structures such as the Great Pyramids, Stonehenge, Easter Island and is the knowledge that was collected in the Jewish Ark of the Covenant.The environmental changes of Glacial Respiration determine all biological evolution and can explain why higher forms of intelligent humans developed. Further, Glacial Respiration releases the secret hidden by the Knights Templars, Masonic Order and all religions. Uncovers an advanced Blue-Blooded semi-industrial Atlantian Civilization that was built and destroyed many times over for the last million years. The book ends with an explanation of how linear western religion will be physically ended and describes the construction of the doomsday device capable of fulfilling its own self defining prophesy, "Revelations". H2onE2 is a mind-expanding experience that stimulates the soul, instinct, intellect and is an almanac to the past, present and future of humanity. Rise, awaken and evolve into H3 human consciousness.The discovery: As a Professional Geologist, I attempted to link the Dust Bowl/Great Depression to a pre-glacial condition or mechanism and ended up writing the book H2onE2. I felt that there was a strong connection between the Dust Bowl and transition back into Glacial Winter. I did notice that my professors scientifically crumbled every time I mentioned the relationship. I could not go back in time or locate indisputable proof. The proof came from understanding all educational disciplines including history and theology. I soon discovered that all religious text both eastern and western continually described significant climate change conditions relating to Glacial Respiration. For years I fought off mixing science and religion until I discovered that the origins of all religions were founded or created to help humans psychologically survive the harsh earthen environment. Without reason I soon accepted that the world's complicated religions were the same. This came true and I continued to write and discover. Everything came into place as though I was unlocking a 10,000-year-old puzzle. I also realized this puzzle was opened before I discovered it, by someone else, some other group. If so, further understanding of this knowledge might be extracted from significant historical events. Lastly, this is the vital information needed to make future predictions.  Short Story & Video.....American Holocaust The Dust Bowl, Stock Market Crash of 1929 and 2008The Dust Bowl, stock market crash and Great Depression resulted in the deaths of an estimated 7.5 million Americans. The natural and unnatural events had one major result, removing millions of Homesteaders, American Indians and freed slaves off the petroleum rich Great Plains during the largest oil boom in US history.[/nobr]
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Re: END OF THE WORLD 4990 B.C + 2011 - 1 = 7,000 POINTS TO 5/21/211...
Jul 23, 2009 8:49 PM
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Scientist can not even lay all the proof in the table - where they get all these figures. It is all nothing, but all guess and if you don't know this by now, you are just fooling yourself. Where is the proof? No Where? Remember, God is not living in "Time" He is outside of time and he is telling us the true facts, that the world has been around exactly 13,021 years. Let's not be "Ignorant" of what the scientist are saying...Instead, let us open our ears and hear the word of God and he says:
"But, beloved, be not "ignorant" of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day." II PETER 3:8...
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Re: END OF THE WORLD 4990 B.C + 2011 - 1 = 7,000 POINTS TO 5/21/211...
Sep 15, 2009 6:54 AM
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Why would God kill off the things that, "incorrectly," worship him?
The earth is indeed 4 billion years old. The earth won't end because Satan runs a river of lava or God raids the ground with locusts. The world will "end" because of a natural or cosmic disaster.
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Re: END OF THE WORLD 4990 B.C + 2011 - 1 = 7,000 POINTS TO 5/21/211...
Sep 15, 2009 8:25 AM
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> THE BIBLE SAYS THE EARTH IS 13,000 YEARS OLD AND
> THE UNIVERSE IS VERY YOUNG:
No it doesn't. Some people have made that inference but that's a totally different thing.
> a. Elements in the ocean water are not found in a
> in a saturated condition. From this, one could deduce
> the flow of chemicals into the ocean was a short-time
> phenomenon.
One could. One would be wrong to do so however. Note that the air is not saturated with water which by similar logic would imply that the world was only a few days/weeks/months/ years at most old.
> b. Proportions of elements found in the water or
> r or on the ocean floor are in no relationship
> whatsoever to the proportions found in the
> continents. Such variables are resistance to erosion,
> water transportability, solubility, and others, over
> a very short period of weathering accord with these
> extreme differences in chemical proportions.
This is simply wrong. Basing any conclusions on this is an exercise in futility
> c. The fact that many of the chemicals in ocean
> cean solution are present in amounts that could have
> accumulated within the last 1,000 years or less, if
> all rocks were equally susceptible to erosion, can be
> used dramatically to support a 13,000 year age of the
> earth. For this is precisely what would be expected
> in view of the differences in erosion resistance,
> solubility, etc. of the continental rocks.
Wrong again
> d. The concept of a very young earth is supported
> rted also by existence of a thin layer of sediments
> on the ocean floor.
Keep trying the odds are eventually you will get soemthing right.
> e. The fact that certain sales such as NaCl are
> are in such abundance in ocean solution could be
> interpreted to mean that they have been present in
> essentially their present quantities from the very
> beginning.
Yes they could be interpreted that way. It's just that the interpretation would be incorrect.
> .... The 13,000 year date of the Bible
> appears to be the only true alternative to popular
> concepts of a very old earth.
Wrong again. Your batting 1000 today.
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Re: END OF THE WORLD 4990 B.C + 2011 - 1 = 7,000 POINTS TO 5/21/211...
Sep 15, 2009 5:07 PM
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VERY INTERESTING! PERSONALLY I DONT CALL IT AN END OF THE WORLD. I SAY IT ALL DEPENDS ON HOW PREPARED WE ARE WHEN THE EARTH RESHAPES ITSELF AFTER YEARS OF POLUTION. VERY SIMPLE! AND WHEN THE FARTHER SON ARRIVE WELL WHEN WE GET THERE JESUS KNOW'S WE ALL DESERVE TO GO TO HEAVEN CAUSE THIS WORLD AINT FOR US.
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Sep 15, 2009 9:14 PM
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...why are you shouting? Please, turn off the caps lock.
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Re: END OF THE WORLD 4990 B.C + 2011 - 1 = 7,000 POINTS TO 5/21/211...
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Sorry, I been there, done that...No can buy. Either you trust Mankind or God...The proofs are in the Bible, and the world has been around for 13,000 years. Scientist, has no proof at all. Nothing, but all speculation. They don't have any solid proofs whatsoever...
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Sep 16, 2009 5:15 AM
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> ...The proofs are in the Bible, that the world has
> been around only for 13,000 years.
There is very little you can prove with the Bible.
> Scientist has no proof all nothing, but
> speculation. Check their words, they uncertain of how
> old the age of the earth.
Wrong again. Science and scientist have proved a lot of thigns. The exact age of the earth is not clear but it is orders of magnitude greater than 13,000 years and the universe is even older.
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Sep 17, 2009 8:26 PM
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"I would checkout my bookstore if I were you".
No, I assure you, you'd have much better things to do 
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Sorry,but you are so wrong:"There is very little you can prove with the Bible." If there's one thing I've learned about xian's, they can prove anything with the bible. It's all about what you wanna believe & then convincing yourself over & over again.
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Haven't you boxed yourself in on this one?
Sep 17, 2009 9:11 PM
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I mean, I can see that you're really into this, so what if you got your dates wrong or God changes his mind or you know what ever,but it doesn't happen? Well then you're pretty much hosed, right? Unless you've got a "plan B" ( no worries here though, you'll come up with something on the fly just like every other doomsayer in the past has).
I just think you might be happier with the whole God thing if you stopped fixating on the end of the world, maybe heed some of the "Good News" type of stuff from Christ instead.
Bottom line here is why does this matter? Will you still believe when it doesn't happen? (I know, I know, you are certain, but humour me here) ...ask yourself what is it that you really believe in? God's love & salvation or is it something more dark & sinister? ...fear, uncertainty & doubt?
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Re: Haven't you boxed yourself in on this one?
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Then, that means that you don't trust the word of God, the Bible. I believe 100% it's going to happen - Because, it came from the word of God. When, God says it's going to happen, its going to happen and he never fails in the past neither in the future...God's word is trustworthy..
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