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Mar 28, 2009 7:42 PM
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Does anyone have any good reasonable explanations on 1: How these stones, many weighing hundreds of tonnes, were moved more than ten miles from the quarry to where they rest now.
2: How these stones were carved and holes "drilled' in such exact and precise ways.
From what i've seen and read, no one has any possible explanation on either of these two questions outside of alien technology. Even if these stones were actually moved by humans and only humans, it seems absolutely impossible that humans and only humans could have made these slots and holes and carvings. Not only are these stones the second hardest stones on earth, but these slots, holes, etc, are very exact. Very precise and would be very difficult to reproduce today.
IS THIS NOT AS CLOSE TO PROOF OF ALIENS AS THERE IS ? If anyone has or knows someone who has good theories ( not just guesses ) i would love to hear them.
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Mar 28, 2009 7:45 PM
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Might help if you told people what you were talking about.
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Mar 28, 2009 7:51 PM
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I'm going to assume it's the Pumapinku temple complex in Bolivia.
Here's a link to the Arcaheological Institute of America's dig of the site. Including their recreation of transportation methods for the stones.
http://www.archaeology.org/interactive/tiwanaku/project/pumapunku1.html
Enjoy.
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Mar 28, 2009 7:52 PM
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"IS THIS NOT AS CLOSE TO PROOF OF ALIENS AS THERE IS ?"
You could be referring to stonehenge or the pryamids, but even back then they had unique lever and pulley systems which could have been used in addition with ox or cattle to assist pulling. No speculation its true history books people, read em. =)
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Mar 28, 2009 8:27 PM
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Hi --
2 other ways you can move heavy objects:
1) Dig a shallow ditch. Place a log in it. Place logs about a rock and a half in front of it. Tie a rope of some type around it with pulling length in front. Have people at the back end to push. Have others carry the logs to the front of the log line for continuous rolling.
2) Mathematcally calculate the length of the ropes (based upon the rocks demensions and estimated weight)needed to lift it. The size of the rock will determine how many people are needed to lift it. Try this yourself. You will see how easy it is to lift very heavy objects without the strain. (note: rope length must be equal on both sides)
As for the drilling of rock it really wouldn't be that hard to figure out an easy way to do it. Lining up/measuring doesn't take much brain power at all.
If anyone gives you any grief over that, tell them:
Oh wait! humans can't figure that out! I forgot. Only ET life forms have reasoning ability. They have to do things for us. Oh how stupid of me. I'm so ashamed!
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Mar 28, 2009 9:33 PM
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If you don't know what Puma Punku is, then why bother with any reply ? It's a ruin in Bolivia.
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Mar 28, 2009 10:05 PM
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No, i'm not referring to Stonehedge or the Pyramids. This is Puma Punku in Bolivia. Those were some awesome cows to pull those 100 plus ton stones over ten miles ! Maybe the cows helped carve and drill them too. Thanks for your insite.
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Mar 28, 2009 10:16 PM
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I knew it was too much to ask. I regret even asking these two questions. 2bwareofthem.....it's obvious you have no idea about Puma Punku. Have you even seen these stones ? The precise grooves and holes ? This was some 17,000 years ago, but "drilling of rock wouldn't be that hard to figure out an easy way to do it" ! ! ! ! ! ! ! I guess you didn't read my original posting about NO GUESSES. Your reply isn't even a guess. It's retarded.
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Mar 28, 2009 11:02 PM
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ok, I can't sleep so I looked it up -
Several sites out there on it if you google.
Here's one
http://www.world-mysteries.com/mpl_6.htm
Very interesting!!
There is no known technology in all the ancient world that could have transported stones of such massive weight and size. The Andean people of 500 AD, with their simple reed boats, could certainly not have moved them. Even today, with all the modern advances in engineering and mathematics, we could not fashion such a structure
They had to transport these stones uphill too. And there was a real lack of trees on that plateau area. Good find steve.
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Mar 28, 2009 11:08 PM
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On second look, that aerial photo looks like the "all-seeing eye" in the middle of that pyramid. Too spooky.
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Mar 29, 2009 12:28 AM
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"I knew it was too much to ask. I regret even asking these two questions."
So since no one in the world can explain it, you came on ufo hunters message board for the answer? lol. You will not find the answer here, there are weird structures all over the world, if you can ask "how can you not think aliens built them" then i can ask why WOULD aliens build it? Better yet, why would these "alien engineers" help our ancestors then break all contact with us? Why not maintain their presence here on earth? I dont think they would come all this way to build a base, and if they were building a base they would have use the metals like the ones used in their craft and not rocks like primitive beings used. One thing I notice on it is it has tribal symbols, not alien symbols. Either way its unexplained, so ones speculation and opinion is just that, an opinion.
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Mar 29, 2009 4:38 AM
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Assuming that was for me.
Well you didn't actually say that did you? And without that most basic information I almost didn't even do a quick search.
> If you don't know what Puma Punku is, then why bother
> with any reply ? It's a ruin in Bolivia.
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Mar 29, 2009 4:46 AM
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This still amazes me.
A website written by who knows, that's probably never been there, most likely isn't an archaeologist or engineer, says that it couldn't be done and misstates the weights by a factor of a thousand. And for that they are taken seriously.
While the actual dig of the site by trained archaeologists, that actually move stones like that to see how it was done and show it, is ignored as unimportant.
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Mar 29, 2009 5:47 AM
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The stones were moved by humans !
"Well, since this forum is in tended to for discussion of episodes from the show "UFO Hunters", I suspect your post will be removed rather quickly. But it was a nice try. "
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Mar 29, 2009 7:05 AM
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CvilleDon...First i assumed that if you know what Puma Punku even is then you would have all the "basic" information needed. Second, what i've read from experts who have been there say there are some stones that weigh over 100 tonnes. You say archaeologists actually move stones like that.....how far? did they move them ten miles? Did they move them from the quarry to Puma Punku? No. So what are you saying ?
Third lets all forget about moving these massive stones. Lets say your right, you and others, that man alone moved these stones. How did they carve and drill these precise slots and holes? The only harder stone on earth than these stones is the diamond. What did they use? What tools? How? You have the answers. Tell us how. Tell me the tools, and how these grooves never varied in size, width, depth and were perfectly straight. How did they drill these tiny precise holes through these incredibly hard stones? All anyone can say is things like " it wouldn't be that hard to do" because man has a brain. I don't know what your reading but it's not the same information as mine.
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