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area 52 and the Nazi Bell

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Last Post Nov 5, 2009 9:09 AM by: darkrift
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area 52 and the Nazi Bell

Oct 30, 2009 11:45 AM
A year or so ago UFO Hunters covered the Nazi Bell I don't remember which episode exactly, but what I do remember was the Supposed Test rig they found outside the mine, below is a link to a photo of it I found on the web. http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/7971/secretfacilitydd8.jpg
Now if I remember correctly one of the members of the team tried to debunk it as test rig, saying it was the supports for a water tower. Fine that could be the answer HOWEVER look at the link below.
I found this while scouring Google maps around Dugway after watching the Show Called Area52.
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&t=h&ll=40.199019,-113.177215&spn=0.00386,0.006663&z=17
Not saying they are anything odd, just pointing out their existence. They even both seem to have the same number of verticals, if I am counting correctly. Strange coincidence to say the least.

Here is a link to the original one in Germany

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&t=h&ll=50.628701,16.494239& ;a mp;a mp;a mp;a mp;spn=0.00386,0.006663&z=17
Edit
WOW the one in Utah is almost twice the size of the other one.
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Re: area 52 and the Nazi Bell

Oct 30, 2009 12:19 PM
That is an interesting find. The consentric rings around them (there are several at Dougway) almost have me wondering if these are/were test structures for weapons testing. It does fit in well with the bases stated usage. One of them even seems to have blown up or been burned down. Just a theory, I may very well be wrong.
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Re: area 52 and the Nazi Bell

Oct 30, 2009 12:22 PM
Fascinating. I count 12 support columns. That correct?

Sizes seems to correlate: both around 100ft +/- 30 ft.

This is quite a coincidence. I will admit that the German structure looks too much like an existing support for a water tower, however, nobody is saying that it doesn't. They could have built the structure for many reasons: 1) it was a water tower, that's all, 2) they wanted something like the structure, and they had the plans to make one, or 3) it was a water tower, but was re-purposed for experiments. I've seen many a structure re-purposed and if the strength and design are a match, then so be it. I think if you claim that the structure is exclusively unique and could have only been used to experiment on a "Nazi Bell" then you're argument is flawed. The structure could have easily been a water tower at one time then used later for experiments. Nobody knows.

The fact that you found the same structure at Dugway is truly amazing. I would really like to know what the purported use for that structure is. Maybe someone will come forward and say "yeah, those are supports for a German water tower, nothing special". hah

I love the area around the structure. Looks like it's been driving on, round and round 100's of times. Also, is that a truck in the middle?

Great find!
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Re: area 52 and the Nazi Bell

Oct 30, 2009 1:38 PM
Runner, check this out:

http://fas.org/irp/program/collect/an-flr-9.htm

Spoke to someone with USAF background and they recognized the structure as possibly an "Elephant Cage" array.
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Re: area 52 and the Nazi Bell

Oct 30, 2009 5:21 PM
It's most likely a munitions detonation arena. They hang panels on the cage and detonate the weapon... The panels show the explosive pattern of debris from the weapon. What few extreme low band ring antennas are left, are mainly in coastal areas. But very few remain.
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Re: area 52 and the Nazi Bell

Oct 30, 2009 8:55 PM
Zoom out and look at the map. There are several of these "areas" with circular patterns. Notice that there are several large concentric circles around these areas. If the ring is 150 ft in diameter, then it could easily be 20-30 ft tall. So, the military places 20-30ft panels around a huge circumference? I am not readily seeing that. Unless the panels are made of light material they would weigh tons. Seems like a lot of work. Are they looking to save the bits and pieces, because I don't see safety as an issue given the remote location. I did read that these elephant cages emit large amounts of radar and microwaves, which would be good to have in a remote location.

I would like to know more about the munitions theory. It would help to hear/read more, maybe see some illustrations.
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Re: area 52 and the Nazi Bell

Nov 3, 2009 3:53 PM
Yes, the materials are light. It's not for safety, it's for examining where the debris goes so you can see the patterns the explosions make. This is a version of one here: http://www.eglin.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/photos/082108-F-5906J-001.jpg

They have multiple ones because it can take time to examine everything, and somebody else might want to do a test. Plus, sometimes people are assembled across a certain number of days from around the country, or even the world, to do a number of shots. So they need to do the shots quickly day for day.

The ring antennas were mainly used for ultra low-band submarine comms. That's why most of them were near the ocean.
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Re: area 52 and the Nazi Bell

Nov 3, 2009 4:11 PM
Yes Yb2, it's an elephant cage. Just about every air base has one. You can do a quick search on google earth and see these communications structures everywhere.

No mystery here.


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Re: area 52 and the Nazi Bell

Nov 4, 2009 1:12 AM
Wullenweber arrays were not built at most bases... They were first built through a Navy contract to build about one dozen. Then over the following years they built about 8-10 more in various locations. The last one built in the first group was the array at Imperial Beach, CA, which is still there, but not functioning. http://www.bing.com/maps/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTSN&cp=32.59359~-117.129289&style=h&lvl=16&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

As you can see, it looks very different. To my knowledge, only two of the arrays are still active... The one at Misawa and the one at Elmendorf.
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Re: area 52 and the Nazi Bell

Nov 4, 2009 5:40 AM
DP vs the newbie in USAF knowledge :O

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Re: area 52 and the Nazi Bell

Nov 4, 2009 10:40 AM
Hey DPer,

Go do your home work ...then come back and play...complete non-sense

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Re: area 52 and the Nazi Bell

Nov 4, 2009 10:47 AM
OO,

Yeah, and the Nazi bell ring was what a water tower....you guys are hilarious...A freakin water tower with mega voltage cables feeding it...PLEASE....and what of the frequency output in both rings...to the ionsphere...how interesting...right Mr. Tesla = worked extensively with the ionsphere at Colorado Springs...oooops and almost brought down a few big buildings in NYC with his portable frequency device...resonance in tune...like with people and the bell changing their vibr@tional energy and thought orientations.(mind control...uh huh

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Re: area 52 and the Nazi Bell

Nov 4, 2009 12:12 PM
Don't forget the conspiracy to remove all evidence of those cables and then build multiple water towers to look just like it. Or how they hid all evidence of buildings almost falling over.

Ah, MOOT, what would the nut world be without you.

> OO,
>
> Yeah, and the Nazi bell ring was what a water
> er tower....you guys are hilarious...A freakin water
> tower with mega voltage cables feeding
> it...PLEASE....and what of the frequency output in
> both rings...to the ionsphere...how
> interesting...right Mr. Tesla = worked extensively
> with the ionsphere at Colorado Springs...oooops and
> almost brought down a few big buildings in NYC with
> his portable frequency device...resonance in
> tune...like with people and the bell changing their
> vibr@tional energy and thought orientations.(mind
> control...uh huh
>
> --
> Listen closely, UNTAINTED FACTS,LOGIC,STATISTICAL
> PATTERNS,PARTICIPANTS TESTIMONY,AND SIMPLE COMMON
> SENSE = ADD TRUTH TO YOUR DAY!!!

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Re: area 52 and the Nazi Bell

Nov 4, 2009 6:24 PM
Don,

There would be NO world or science with genius's such as yourself walking around....an intentionally steering people for the(shadow gov maybe??)...You tell us...

PS The water towers were there first...this standard design...just happen to serve their purpose as well...but there was NO tank on top of that one genius...It was built specifically for the Bell experimentation...Geez Alou

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Re: area 52 and the Nazi Bell

Nov 4, 2009 6:27 PM
Ooops! You're right DPD, not every base has an Elephant cage...sorry, my bad. I'm getting confused with something else.

I was at Elmendorf for 6 years, and drove by that darn thing all the time. The base game wardens (volunteers) would have to go out there and scare away the black bears with their pellet guns. One time they came across a grizzly by the cage, and that big boy chased their truck, clocking at 35 mph! Holy Cow! lol

I miss Alaska....(sigh)


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