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M-theory revealed bridges the gap between religion and science
Oct 11, 2009 12:53 PM
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M-theory revealed bridges the gap between religion and science. It is presently believed that choice is the cause of parallel dimensions. An infinite amount of possibilities branch out to parallel dimensions.
First we need to step back and understand quantum mechanics. The first double slit experiment with electrons carried out in 1961, revealed a change in the experiment by simply choosing to look. I regard choosing as a key factor, in the changes. This new knowledge simply changed the world of science. What exactly was happening?
Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle states that one cannot simultaneously measure position and momentum to arbitrary precision. Better knowledge of one must be traded for ignorance of the other.(1927)
This is how we arrive into theories like M-theory. Choice being a major player in the bizarre changes in the double slit experiment, lead us to the understanding of parallel dimensions created by choice. Still Parallel dimensions of an infinite nature does not describe how the strange phenomena’s of fortune teller, like Nostradamus or any other have such close predictions.
This is how we arrive into Ending Parallel Time Lines. Simply said if time lines end, the pieces fit together better. If a prediction is made by such a person it won’t make it true. The reason for this is that to read into the future depends on where they arrive at. Since every person subconsciously tunes into this and bases there conscious decisions on the best or least confusing outcome, waves are created. A fortune teller will land on these waves whether they are the final outcome or not. Simply said, Nostradamus could have landed on any number of billion or more possibilities very close to the reality we live in. This can only happen when time lines end because to follow the time line still brings the fortune teller close to the reality.
How does this bridge religion to science? To believe that each and every outcome of parallel dimensions always leads to an outcome bettering the life for man. This is where religion resides. Religion has been the moral code and leadership of all men and women threw time. We have been guided and base decisions on these moralities to build a better world. It would seem that any time line leading to an unworldly demise could be change by simply being aware of them (subconsciously or consciously). If local parallel time lines could not be corrected for everlasting life, distant time lines could be corrected to produce everlasting life. It could be said, this is where God resides, to preserve life.
If so, who has been consciously taking care of life if any at all?
I must say that theories are only theories, and that they are only based on possibilities and may not be truth. You choose.
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Re: M-theory revealed bridges the gap between religion and science
Oct 11, 2009 2:08 PM
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I had to correct my dates on Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle. lol I knew it was 1927, I just had a brain fart.
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Re: M-theory revealed bridges the gap between religion and science
Oct 11, 2009 2:19 PM
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Conscious or subconscious, knowledge of the future will either direct you there or steer you away from it. If you steer away from it the time line won’t happen. If it doesn’t happen you can’t make a decision about it. Knowing this means that the parallel time line must remain until the knowledge that redirects you from it. (Ending Parallel Time Lines)
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Re: M-theory revealed bridges the gap between religion and science
Oct 11, 2009 2:30 PM
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Anyone have any thought on this?
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Re: M-theory revealed bridges the gap between religion and science
Oct 11, 2009 4:10 PM
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I think your right. String theory is the only one that can go beyond the big bang.
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Re: M-theory revealed bridges the gap between religion and science
Oct 12, 2009 8:18 PM
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If you apply ending parallel time lines as an algorithm, to science and prophecy it strangely fits well together. If the forecast for 2012 is not a good one, when are we going to take charge of our future?
Since parallel ending time lines means that a forecast must be close to the realities forecasted. It gives a good idea of the mindset of the people of the time. This means that those choices are on the minds of the people. If to attempt to consciously redirect away from the forecast we must except that changing the mindset of the people capable of making those decisions(diplomacy instead of hardened conflict or a applicable situation to a event ). This could produce new avenues for a better future.
Perhaps new concepts should to be analyzed to account for ending time lines that may consciously help us avoid them.
Food for thought, when considering ending parallel time lines. (science or science fiction?)
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Re: M-theory revealed bridges the gap between religion and science
Oct 12, 2009 11:07 PM
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What you are really trying to accomplish, SourCheeks, is to bridge the gap between religion and atheism as atheism is a whole religion unto itself. It even has cult factions like this one > http://www.atheists.org/ I say this because atheism has hijacked the science community due to the fact that deist religions throughout time have thought it would be cool to explain away everything, that is, out of thin air. When religious explanations began to proven wrong by scientific explanations religion became the enemy of science as we all know.
Now you are going to bridge the gap between religion and science which today is both rooted in theology when it comes down to all the personalities involved.
Even if "M-theory" could be proven to be fact people still would not accept it because it would conflict too much with their personal belief windows that they have become very comfortable with. In both the science community and of course in the religious community belief always triumphs over all.
I wish you the best, SourCheeks.
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Re: M-theory revealed bridges the gap between religion and science
Oct 13, 2009 8:12 AM
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According to the double slit experiment what we think is as important as what we say and do. Our Mind set may travel in waves, which can lead to the forecasted events. All life is made of electrons and can be affected by choice . What a can of worms we have noticed, metaphorically.
Bob , Yes I am. I have noticed that science is not proving religion wrong necessarily but, shows a connection from which believe systems may have been built.
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Re: M-theory revealed bridges the gap between religion and science
Oct 13, 2009 10:44 AM
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> Bob , Yes I am. I have noticed that science is not
> proving religion wrong necessarily but, shows a
> connection from which believe systems may have been
> built.
I agree, but I was speaking more to the add-ons of interpretations being proven wrong rather than any root meaning of origins.
The latest example of an add-on is - "God wants you to be a greedy SofB on Wall Street." Turning the Christian Bible into a manifesto for American big business to steal everything that is not nailed down, and to declare all out war on the poor. The complete opposite philosophy of what the writings actually espouse in original meaning.
Another example which happened many centuries ago is- Genesis somehow was turned into a story of a Merlin the magician "presto poof it just appears" fable, and not a story of a slow progression of action overtime where each of the seven days is a metaphor for every stage in planet Earth's maturity.
I appreciate what you are doing, SourCheeks, it's a noble cause at any rate.
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Re: M-theory revealed bridges the gap between religion and science
Oct 13, 2009 6:52 PM
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I wasn’t trying to get into the deeper inconsistencies of religion. I was pursuing this thought of morality and soul.( Or what is God? What is this feeling I have?) If forecasts predict a major event, with ending parallel time lines would imply a mood or state of mind of the people, since the forecast must be close to reality. If so, religion often uses a good book to build a good soul. If religion had not been around the forecast may have been endless endings. Perhaps religion has been the cause and effect of making it this far in time, with parallel ending time lines. Mans mind may have not been ready in the past to make the big leap in understanding till now.
Every religion believes in some sort of forecast. This implies psychics or some sort of link. With science showing a reason for a forecast and psychics, it brings up a lot of conjecture. What is the link between a religious beleif system and science. I beleive M-theory crosses into that relm.
What do you think? I seem to be drifting away from the science part of it.
Bob: I am not really trying to do anything noble in particular. I am just a science hobbyist trying to answer some of the most age old questions with my spare time.
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Re: M-theory revealed bridges the gap between religion and science
Oct 13, 2009 9:40 PM
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I edited my last post several times.
quoting bob"The latest example of an add-on is - "God wants you to be a greedy SofB on Wall Street." Turning the Christian Bible into a manifesto for American big business to steal everything that is not nailed down, and to declare all out war on the poor. The complete opposite philosophy of what the writings actually espouse in original meaning. "
This could be a simular trend that resulted in world war 2 with Adolf Hitler and the Jews. My german Grandmother use to complain that a Jew Dentist stole her gold teeth.
The more likely truth was that she probably didnt have the money to pay. The truth I may never know.
This is obsurd thinking to me, but shows a trend in present day thinking. There is a drive to make money and religious peolpe are a large part of the community.
I hope that your thoughts are not the true direction of present day faith.
I am more interested in the science end that links the known universe to our soul and how it all works.
As for 2012 and the Mayan's calender. Are we about to whitness the end of our time line for good to start over with a new calender 26,000 years ago making a true time line not our own, void of us for 2013? Or could such a simular situation occur at any different time?
Can anyone prove this incorrect?
Or is this a real life pandemic worth correcting to save our time line?
Religion has alway had fear of consequence.
Share your mental capasity!
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Re: M-theory revealed bridges the gap between religion and science
Oct 14, 2009 2:14 AM
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> I wasn’t trying to get into the deeper
> inconsistencies of religion. I was pursuing this
> thought of morality and soul.( Or what is God? What
> is this feeling I have?) If forecasts predict a major
> event, with ending parallel time lines would imply a
> mood or state of mind of the people, since the
> forecast must be close to reality. If so, religion
> often uses a good book to build a good soul. If
> religion had not been around the forecast may have
> been endless endings. Perhaps religion has been the
> cause and effect of making it this far in time, with
> parallel ending time lines. Mans mind may have not
> been ready in the past to make the big leap in
> understanding till now. Oh, the beginning of the great awakening, or the fifth golden age rather?
This is really-really deep stuff you are espousing, trying to find the meaning of life through a science hobby, and I am somewhat shallow, so I am having a hard time dealing with this information. If you're talking about, "Can random out comes be predicted in finding patterns in numbers?" Good question. That Dr. Kaku guy is all into this. Maybe you can ask him about this topic on his blog. How and if it ties into spirituality, the cosmic connection to God through math and time & space travel even if it's just through mind experimentation........ WoW! Like I mentioned before, this is really deep thinking, so I, duno. I do know that you have to make things go really super fast in order to break the time barrier. H. G. Wells meets Einstein in a really bad science fiction novel........in order to find the meaning of life that leads to a utopia, or at least a feeling of spiritual tranquility.
> Every religion believes in some sort of forecast.
> This implies psychics or some sort of link. With
> science showing a reason for a forecast and psychics,
> it brings up a lot of conjecture. What is the link
> between a religious beleif system and science. I
> beleive M-theory crosses into that relm.
> What do you think?
Ya, God lives in the 11th dimension where all time stands still, but everything moves through it using different mechanics. Where the past, present, and future, along with all possible outcomes become one. I am trying to be heavy here, so I can appear that I am keeping up with you. Keeping up with a person who is right out of central casting of the movie "Good Will Hunting" "The Bank" (2001) and "Casino" where you are the real life Frank "Ace" Rosenthal. Sorry, you do exhibit a highly gifted mind. How anyone like yourself ever missed out on a scholarship to attend MIT is beyond me.
> I seem to be drifting away from
> the science part of it.
Digression is fun, that's how conversation evolves in making for more interesting recreational conversation.
> Bob: I am not really trying to do anything noble in
> particular. I am just a science hobbyist trying to
> answer some of the most age old questions with my
> spare time.
Just a suggestion here-
You claim to be from Surrey, so why not attend TWU
http://www.twu.ca/academics/science/physics/
Learn it, and live it.
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> I edited my last post several times.
I do the same thing, and it can really be a manic bad habit.
> quoting bob"The latest example of an add-on is - "God
> wants you to be a greedy SofB on Wall Street."
> Turning the Christian Bible into a manifesto for
> American big business to steal everything that is not
> nailed down, and to declare all out war on the poor.
> The complete opposite philosophy of what the writings
> actually espouse in original meaning. "
> This could be a simular trend that resulted in world
> d war 2 with Adolf Hitler and the Jews. My german
> Grandmother use to complain that a Jew Dentist stole
> her gold teeth.
> The more likely truth was that she probably didnt
> have the money to pay. The truth I may never know.
My father's side of the family is from Germany though. They left way before the anti-Semitic propaganda was into full swing. My great grandmother was Jewish. I am sure her family was wiped-out. All I know is her maiden name was Baum- all in the whale oil business. So a Jew Dentist stole your grandmother's gold teeth according to her? That's right straight out of the Goebbels's how to hate thy neighbor handbook; some really messed up stuff back then. Back on track here- Did the Nazi's distort religion to manipulate the people, you bet. Do politicians do the same thing today, you bet.
> This is obsurd thinking to me, but shows a trend in
> present day thinking. There is a drive to make money
> and religious peolpe are a large part of the
> community.
That's a very rational observation.
> I hope that your thoughts are not the true direction
> of present day faith.
> I am more interested in the science end that links
> the known universe to our soul and how it all works.
I don't know where to even begin in responding to this. FYI what I am going to say here has no reflection in judgment on you from my perspective, but your comment has, to me, laced in it traces of faint echoes of cosmic spiritual talk that reminds me of "Bay Area" campus speak down in Cally. People that hang out at the observatory citing poetry with cosmic themes all day- stretched out on their rainbow colored blankets in a daze- searching for God as if the telescope above their heads will one day find Him, or at least point them in the right direction on a path where everything will turn into Heaven at the end of it all. I call it, "Looking for the Great Hippie God who lives eternally in the 60's forever time warp." You're talking to a hardcore social cynic here, so this is all pretty much completely wasted on me. I mean, the closest thing I ever thought on this subject was one time I stared up at the ceiling of a Masonic grand lodge, and contemplated, I think, what you are communicating here. However I am not a romantic, and you have to be in order to really get into what you are espousing, if I understand you correctly.
> As for 2012 and the Mayan's calender. Are we about to
> whitness the end of our time line for good to start
> over with a new calender 26,000 years ago making a
> true time line not our own, void of us for 2013?
> Or could such a simular situation occur at any
> different time?
> Can anyone prove this incorrect?
> Or is this a real life pandemic worth correcting to
> save our time line?
> Religion has alway had fear of consequence.
> Share your mental capasity!
Mayan what? @$$#@@%! mental capacity? I don't have any to share, but I'll try to anyway, and here is my attempt at it- I can't wait until this cosmic odometer spins over, so everyone can go back to a normal pattern of thinking again. Of course they won't because there is an asteroid called 99942 Apophis. So the same story gets remade time and again, and so this cycle repeats itself going on and on and on forever, or at least until when humankind truly does end as my post here has just now come to an end.
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Re: M-theory revealed bridges the gap between religion and science
Oct 14, 2009 9:03 AM
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That was a great post Bob
I am just recognizing that most the population has a believe system, that has been built on an actual science that is only just beginning to be explained. Exactly what is all this, string theory, parallel dimensions, and alternate time lines? Can it be true? What did science base its observations on?
I am only a science hobbyist and Canadian Inventor with 3 active patents (http://steitzer.shawwebspace.ca/ ) which include a high powered vacuum the size of a roll of string to replace the fish tape. I am not a physicist superstar, even though I would like to be.
I have noticed some interesting things about science and have chosen to share my thoughts. Perhaps a superstar can build on them.
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Oct 14, 2009 4:07 PM
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> That was a great post Bob
Hey, you post great in my opinion. I just got done posting with a person on another board who has a habit of attempting to come across as high minded, and can't write worth -beep-. Which I am fast coming to understand is becoming a common trait on the internet these days.
> I am just recognizing that most the population has a
> believe system, that has been built on an actual
> science that is only just beginning to be explained.
> Exactly what is all this, string theory, parallel
> dimensions, and alternate time lines? Can it be true?
> What did science base its observations on?
Are you interested in paleontology? Because you apply some of it's thinking in really unique ways.
I have a background in industrial history (which I never have done anything with BTW) You remind me of one of my instructors of it which I had while I was studying it, I mean, faking my way through it. The instructor I had who you remind me of always would say thing such as"Everything from the far reaches of the Universe to the center of your mind is all math. History is understood in detail by understanding the math behind it all." And "History is built on the work of mathematicians, and not philosophers who only reflect the work with cheap talk." He was a trip, and he was also one of the Chrysler executives that ran the company into the ground back in the 1970's. That part does not remind me of your post here just to clearly.
> I am only a science hobbyist and Canadian Inventor
> with 3 active patents
> (http://steitzer.shawwebspace.ca/ ) which include a
> high powered vacuum the size of a roll of string to
> replace the fish tape. I am not a physicist
> superstar, even though I would like to be.
>
> I have noticed some interesting things about science
> and have chosen to share my thoughts. Perhaps a
> superstar can build on them.
Before reading the below content note that, I hold no doctorates of any kind, so you are posting here with a guy who is an admitted fool. Today I am in data services. Base on my former career path, I may be able to add some thoughts in some minimal way to your very useful and amazingly simplistic ingenious device, so I'll attempt doing so, but my days of being a really terrible engineer and mechanist are long gone. I say this because there must be a reason for why I am doing what I am now, and that is the only one I can come up with..
It's has been awhile since I have worked with vacuum technology, and that was just high performance vacuum pumps & negative pressure reservoirs. Basically taking an air compressor powered by a "Tim the Tool Man" motor, and using it's traditional application in reverse, nothing spectacular.
Boy, that is a really neat device. The only improvement I can see that it needs is to have a broader base, and redirect the suction that is holding it to the floor to turn a turbo, so material can be swept in from all directions- replacement with small suction cups on the perimeter or one larger one mounted directly below a spindle that the impeller would be attached to should do the trick- even bleed a little of the suction off through small tubes to the suction cup/cups, if you have to in order to keep it flush on the floor.
The combination of the suction holding it to the floor, and being a vacuum dustpan may be the very thing that could makes your device patentable, so I do not want to add anything that would devalue it as a patentable invention. I am sure I did add ideas that would do just that, so take my thoughts with a grain of salt.
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I worked in a place where they had dust bins (Large cans that on the bottom had an impeller where you swept debris up to any side, and it grabbed the material where then a suction tube centered inside the bin which then took the debris to the top and deposited the debris around it inside the can- it had a rubber sealed gasket side door and everything. It also had a lid with a rubber sealed gasket that when it was turned off you could deposit large size debris. The whole thing was handily cool to say the least.The Maintenance Dept. came up with it. I thought it was ingenious at any rate. I use to push the bins around my work area like a giant push vacuum. There were professional floor cleaning equipment the size of a zamboni machine, but only maintenance could operate them.  So you can picture what I am talking about here better, it was plugged to an overhead power supply that dangled from above, so the cord never touched the floor, in fact no cords could because it was considered a hazard. having it non electrical and having it instead to the central vac system would of worked, now that I look back on it in hindsight, and after of course seeing your ingenious invention. Speaking about the central vac (CV) systems. We had floor and to the wall mounted dustpans that were connected to the CV-system like the one in your house.
Anyway these are just some examples I can think of offhand that you could maybe incorporate to maybe improve on your ideas, or build next generation version. Oh and I want to mention- the dust bin that maintenance came up with wouldn't never have been patented, or any part of it because of those stupid C&ND-agreements everyone has to sign in order to work anywhere these days. If my former employer wants to catch me talking about their "I-properties," I say, "Catch me if you can?"
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Re: M-theory revealed bridges the gap between religion and science
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Bob On a provisional patent you have 1 year international protection to develop you concept or idea at a cost of $109. Thanks for your impute. I am going to put my mind to work on how to get suction cups to work in a format that makes it easy to remove from the floor. The consumer needs easy to use devices that look cool enough to buy and make their life improved. I need to produce them cheap enough to make a profit. I thought my winner idea was the reverse flow vac, since there is no present device out there that does either job it is designed for.It replaces a large shop vac as a central vac unplugger that no one ever carries in their work vehicle and those near useless fish tapes I watch people struggle with for hours. lol
When I think of all the hours that were wasted just from peolpe I know on fish tapes, I thought up that idea. Its not a very complicated device, just specific to maximize power and water lift. It not realy meant as a vacuum for dirt. Those bags for dirt just cause a reduction in waterlift. It was only meant to be small and save time for those tradesmen out there that have waisted countless hours.
I plan to take this one to market myself after I change a few things in the design. It should pay for itself after the first few uses, considering the dollar value per hour for those low voltage companies. Did you notice the airplane I am restoring. Its what I like to spend a few hours on here and there.
Thanks, A little off topic thou.
I did use a lot of constructive thinking thou, which I use for M-theory. lol
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