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Facts for Conspiracy wackos! BIN LADIN DECLARED WAR ON THE US TWICE!
Apr 1, 2005 10:13 PM
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Fact two: Bin Ladin has not only admitted being behind the attacks but said they succeeded beyond their wildest dreams!
Bin Ladin did it!
Anyone that can't see that is either a wacko or a terrorist lover who prefers believing our enemies over their government!
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Re: Facts for Conspiracy wackos! BIN LADIN DECLARED WAR ON THE US TWICE!
Apr 11, 2005 9:48 AM
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> Fact two: Bin Ladin has not only admitted being
> behind the attacks but said they succeeded beyond
> their wildest dreams!
says who? :/
> Anyone that can't see that is either a wacko or a
> terrorist lover who prefers believing our enemies
> over their government!
wacko? no. terrorist lover? no. concerned citizen who thinks that questioning what goes on in a changing world is a GOOD thing? yes. that's all.
from what i know, bin laden said he didnt have anything to do with the attaks. and even if he did say he did it and was happy... he was working with bush... business partners... remember? no im not a terrorist (well maybe i am in the FBI's eyes), i'm just a concerned citizen who likes to ask questions and doesnt ACCEPT what the govt controlled media feeds to me without questioning it.
let's put it this way:
there were 2 conspiracy theories on 9/11. the official conspiracy theory, and the alternative. THEY'RE BOTH THEORIES. see noone looks at it like that... what's a conspiracy theory? a theory about a conspiracy (duh). 9/11 WAS a conspiracy, im sure u can all agree on that. whether it was a conspiracy that arab/muslim terrorists did it or whether the conspirators were the govt... either way it's a conspiracy, so any theory about 9/11 is a conspiracy theory... yet ppl just somehow accept what the media tells them because the MEDIA said it... if the media said goerge bush did it everyone would believe it... because the MEDIA said it. yet everyone takes the official conspiracy THEORY as fact. it's a freakin theory jsyut like the alternative one is so why does everyone take it as fact? it's nto fact, it never WILL be fact, so until then you guys have to examine the evidence... notice how they didnt give us any evidence of the official story... and until they do i support the alternative one that has a lot of evidence supporting it, because i like to question things and i dont think things are the way the corporate controlled media says it is. just my 2 cents.
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Re: Facts for Conspiracy wackos! BIN LADIN DECLARED WAR ON THE US TWICE!
Apr 12, 2005 6:44 AM
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bin laden declared he was responsible on video tape...just because the media aired it does not mean it isn't true..and have you noticed that most of the media stations are wacko liberals who would jump at the chance to blame the President for anything...so don't you think that they would blame him if they could?????
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Of course, Bin Ladin did it...
Apr 12, 2005 6:46 AM
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...but don't expect the conspiracy theorists to accept it. There's something in human nature that causes people to ignore obvious answers and latch onto other ones no matter how bizarre.
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Against my better judgement...
Apr 12, 2005 6:51 AM
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...I'm going to attempt to engage this idea.
>>he was working with bush... business partners... remember?<<
And when did this happen?
>>what's a conspiracy theory? a theory about a conspiracy (duh). 9/11 WAS a conspiracy, im sure u can all agree on that. whether it was a conspiracy that arab/muslim terrorists did it or whether the conspirators were the govt... either way it's a conspiracy, so any theory about 9/11 is a conspiracy theory...<<
Actually one cannot lump the two together. Much more evidence exists that Muslim terrorists performed the attack than agents of the government. I cannot for the life of me figure out why so many people refuse to accept the overwhelming evidence that Islamofascists attacked us on 9-11 and would rather blame the US government. Frankly is just bizarre and in the current war, it's dangerous. Read the 9-11 report or is that suspect because it came from the government?
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Apr 12, 2005 6:52 AM
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The media despises Bush and the GOP. ANYTHING that could be used to bring down Bush would have been used by the press and their Democrat allies.
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Re: Facts for Conspiracy wackos! BIN LADIN DECLARED WAR ON THE US TWICE!
Apr 12, 2005 12:12 PM
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yea there is evidence linking the arabs... but WE havent seen any. everyone just accepts what the media says without them having to present ANY evidence and we're the ones who get labeled conspiracy theorists when BOTH are theories. NEITHER ONE IS FACT. they're both theories right now.
and another misconception is that the media would just at the opportunity to blame bush for 9/11. WRONG. couldn't be further from the truth. the media is liberal, and it's out to make bush look like a moron so that you'll vote for the democratic NWO puppet. THEY WOULD NEVER INCRIMINATE THE PRESIDENT FOR 9/11. the media is controlled, period. there have been many ppl that have gone to the media with tapes of firefighters reporting explosions in the towers b4 they fell... but ull never see that on the news. the media laughs at them. i have a friend who's had the govt up her ass for years (her son was killed in Iraq) and she was opposed to the original UN resolution to go to Iraq... she's had her phones tapped, mail scanned, she's even been searched under the patriot act. why? who knows. she went to the media. they laughed at her.
that's all i have to say.
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Apr 13, 2005 6:51 AM
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>>yea there is evidence linking the arabs... but WE havent seen any. everyone just accepts what the media says without them having to present ANY evidence and we're the ones who get labeled conspiracy theorists when BOTH are theories. NEITHER ONE IS FACT. they're both theories right now.<<
There have already been investigations into the matter, and the Al-Queda terrorists were behind it. There are mountains of evidence compiled in the 9-11 Report.
>>and another misconception is that the media would just at the opportunity to blame bush for 9/11. WRONG. couldn't be further from the truth. the media is liberal, and it's out to make bush look like a moron so that you'll vote for the democratic NWO puppet. THEY WOULD NEVER INCRIMINATE THE PRESIDENT FOR 9/11. the media is controlled, period.<<
Bull. You just contradicted yourself in your own paragraph. If the media is controlled, then they wouldn't be able to depict Bush as a moron. Yes, the media would have been more than happy to pin 9-11 on Bush, especially given the bad feelings over the Florida election. Also let us not forget the opposition party of the Democrats who were (and, in many cases, still are) seething over losing the 2000 election. Do you seriously believe that they wouldn't leap at the opportunity to pin 9-11 on Bush? Of course, they would.
One thing missing in all of this is WHY government agents would be behind 9-11. Care to offer any explanations?
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Re: Against my better judgement...
Apr 13, 2005 7:26 AM
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Fact is that the only conclusion the Conspiracy wackos were willing to accept from the 911 Commission was that Bush was either behind the attack or at least knew about it and could have stopped it!
From the first the conspiracy wackos had made up their minds!
No amount of evidence will change the mind of someone that flaked out!
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Apr 13, 2005 11:09 AM
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That's why I generally avoid debating conspiracy theorists. With them it's like a religion, something based on faith. Just as one cannot argue with another about a deeply-held religion, one cannot argue with another about a deeply-held conspiracy theory.
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Re: Facts for Conspiracy wackos! BIN LADIN DECLARED WAR ON THE US TWICE!
Apr 26, 2005 8:13 PM
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I wonder if we will ever truly know all the facts.
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Re: Against my better judgement...
May 14, 2005 12:35 AM
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Mike,
Just wanted to say that the 911 commission of enquiry started with a predetermined agenda. You will recall that GWB did not want this Enquiry to happen at all. God knows why he would want that. The biggest mass murder in USA history, all in one day.??
I don't include the atomic attacks on Japan for reasons not relevant here.
However the 911 Commission of Enquiry did not at any stage of it's enquiry actually investigate the story as relayed in the media from official sources.
This was assumed to be fact, when in fact there has been no investigation as to those facts presented to the American public and the rest of the global community now dealing with a War on Terror.
Irrespective of conspiracy concepts, the facts and the truths should always be of prime importance. The 911 commission of enquiry failed to do that.All it did was corroborate an unproven story with a pre-assumption to it's facts.
Regards
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Re: Against my better judgement...
May 22, 2009 4:31 PM
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Wrong.
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Re: Against my better judgement...
Sep 11, 2009 6:10 PM
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Umm Stan you are claiming Bush carried out the biggest mass murder in US History YOU HAVE TO PROVE IT!
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Re: Facts for Conspiracy wackos! BIN LADIN DECLARED WAR ON THE US TWICE!
Sep 11, 2009 8:01 PM
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> I wonder if we will ever truly know all the facts.
If we ever will, it probably won't be for quite a while.
In the case of Martin Luther King, it took over thirty years after his murder until a jury found beyond a reasonable doubt that "a conspiracy to kill Dr. King did exist. Most significantly, this conspiracy involved agents of the governments of the City of Memphis, the state of Tennessee and the United States of America" and that "the overwhelming weight of the evidence also indicated that James Earl Ray was not the triggerman and, in fact, was an unknowing patsy."
http://www.thekingcenter.org/KingCenter/Transcript_trial_info.aspx
In the case of the Operation Northwoods conspiracy by all of the Joint Chiefs of Staff to stage a 9/11-style event in order to generate support for an invasion of Cuba , we did not find out about it until 35 years later when the documents detailing the plan were declassified. Fortunately, President Kennedy refused to give the go-ahead for that conspiracy.
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/
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