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Right-wingers: Do you see now what you have done?

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Last Post Oct 1, 2009 4:05 PM by: cphilips
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Right-wingers: Do you see now what you have done?

May 30, 2009 3:57 PM
America has been dominated by right-wingers ever since Kennedy's assassination. Today it is bankrupt. General Motors, the largest company in the world, is worth 70 cents a share. We have next to no manufacturing and hardly any industry. The banks are insolvent; Wall Street is on its knees. State and local governments are terminating programs and cutting wages. We are involved in two wars we cannot win. Pakistin is falling apart. North Korea has nuclear weapons, the means of delivering them and has renounced the armistice of 1954. Iran is on the brink of becoming a nuclear power and promises to wipe out Israel.
We have been led into this abyss by the American right wing, who knows nothing and is proud of it. Ignorance on a white horse--triumphantly riding across the ruins of a once great country. Living in a pipe dream. You have ruined the United States. Are you satisfied?
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Re: Right-wingers: Do you see now what you have done?

May 30, 2009 4:19 PM
Where do you get your history from philips? Hollywood? Jane Fonda? Babs Striesand? Fat Michael Moore? LBJ started the downward slide with a war he set up and rules he created which prevented victory. His social programs decimated Black families by turning the federal government into the father figure. Jimmie Carter put more nails in the social coffin. Bill Clinton and the democrats decided that banks should be forced to make bad loans. Angry Al Gore decided to take away one of the pillars of successful government by creating a fake crisis based on energy consumption. Now the US is thinking about running factories on cow poop and sunlight and wind power that the Dutch made obsolete four hundred years ago.While the economy is tanking and auto industries are going under the former junkie in the white house is still issuing decrees about how they are supposed to make cars built like lawn mowers. The Country can't run on wind and sun. Congress has proven that it can't run private industries. Bill Ayers and the socialists won the war and now we will see the Country go down the tubes unless we smarten up.
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Re: Right-wingers: Do you see now what you have done?

Jun 1, 2009 10:35 PM
We have to be careful not to re-write history in order to satisfy a position. Yes. Lyndon Johnson was President but he was acting on the pressures placed on him by the hawks in the military, the same ones who were complaining that Kennedy was soft on communism. And lets be thankful by the way that Kennedy was President at the time who took the best advice and determined the best way to solve the Cuban Missile Crisis and went ahead and masterfully implemented it with confidence. Can anyone imagine what would have happened if George W. Bush would have been president? Lets also be clear that I'm not blaming the entire Republican party but it has occupied the White House when Nixon put us through the embarassment of Watergate, when it circumvented the laws of the nation in order to fund the contras under Reagan, and brought a madman Dick Cheney to allow torture to become a household word, vindictively causing a treasonous act by dropping a dime on Valerie Plame in order to get back at Joe Wilson for bringing the lie of yellow cake to the American public.
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Re: Right-wingers: Do you see now what you have done?

Jun 2, 2009 4:59 PM
Lefties condemn George Bush for allegedly bowing to hawks in congress and authorizing the Iraq conflict but on the other hand lefties excuse LBJ for bowing to "hawks" in the Military and creating a fake incident in the Tonkin Gulf. Do the math 4,000 lost in Iraq and 50,000 lost in LBJ's war. JFK's lack of leadership in the "Bay of Pigs" incident led to the Russians assuming (correctly?) that he was a lightweight dilettante. Why would JFK create a Devcon#2 incident over missiles that were placed in Cuba when the Russians had boomer subs cruising around the US with the same nuke capability? Answer: He wanted to create a crisis. For the record George Bush's leadership in the Iraqi conflict is second to none. It was the most impressive show of US force in history. Americans went further and faster and liberated more people and took less casualties than any other conflict in history. What's the problem? Unlike every conflict in the bloody 20th century which took the lives of about a Million of America's finest generation this one was under a republican administration and the left can't abide victory during a republican administration. That's why the traitors in congress tried to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in Iraq so many times.
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Re: Right-wingers: Do you see now what you have done?

Jun 3, 2009 12:36 AM
LOL That one got em right between the eyes whitehall. --

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Re: Right-wingers: Do you see now what you have done?

Jun 14, 2009 7:13 AM
"For the record George Bush's leadership in the Iraqi conflict is second to none"......HA HA HA HA HA:^O:^O:^O, that zinger will keep me laughing for days Whitehall, thanks for the comedy act.
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Re: Right-wingers: Do you see now what you have done?

Jun 17, 2009 4:33 PM
More strings of- ha- and smiley faces. Bout what I expected from the left.
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Re: Right-wingers: Do you see now what you have done?

Jun 17, 2009 7:26 PM
:^O:^O:^O What would you expect given the absurdity of your posts???
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Re: Right-wingers: Do you see now what you have done?

Jun 17, 2009 8:18 PM
Take some advice sammie. Don't take up a career in law. I imagine a whole bunch of former clients of yours watching the needle put in their arm thinking "he said the prosecution's case was absurd and he even sent me a smiley face".
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Re: Right-wingers: Do you see now what you have done?

Jun 18, 2009 10:07 AM
What's the use of posting on this board if all of my replies are poofed? Thanks a lot THC!!!
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Re: Right-wingers: Do you see now what you have done?

Jun 23, 2009 11:52 AM
What are you talking about!!!!! GM Bankrupt?? Thanks to UNIONS. LEFTY COMMIES. America Bankrupt, thanks to GOV't SPEDING and enlargment by Dems. Cant fire Teachers, gov't workers, cops, Cant Fire anyone without pay! NYC cant lay off any teahers so they are paying them to stay home. Thanks Democrats. should have been a teacher. IN NJ there are 500 something school districs and yet we have 600 something school boards, How is that even possible? SOCIALISM and higher taxes ate the agendas of the democrat.
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Protocols are a plan and those plans are step by step being fulfilled[/

Jul 20, 2009 6:55 AM
What is not to believe about the Protocols? They exist. Do a search, you will get tens of thousands of links to them.

http://www.google.com/search?q=Protocols+of+the+Learned+Elders&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

http://www.aztlan.net/protocols.htm

They most certainly exist.

Your question attempts to cast doubt on their source, am I right? I don't know the Protocols source. There are a half dozen sources that get argued. I don't know exactly when they were created. We do know they have existed since the 19th century.

I don't care who wrote them or when.

I have spent much of my life in the business world. Prior to that I spent time in Higher Education where I learned Goals and Objectives. In business we dealt with Management by objectives. Strategic and Tactical planning was crucial for success.

What the Protocols are is a crudely written plan, a strategy with logistic and tactical plans for the takeover of the world by a small group of conspiratorial people. While these plans are crude, they were advanced for the late 19th Century and early 20th Century. Some times we fail to recognize our history. Modern scientific management, goals and objectives, strategic and tactical plans and logistics are largely a product of the later half of the 20th century.

Most important of all; the detailed steps called for in the Protocols are being implemented by someone. We can see it happening, from consolidation of the media and banking to the dumb'ing down of the citizenry. The Protocols are a plan and those plans are step by step being fulfilled.

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Re: Protocols are a plan and those plans are step by step being fulfilled[/

Jul 21, 2009 7:53 AM
> What is not to believe about the Protocols? They
> exist. Do a search, you will get tens of thousands of
> links to them.
...
> They most certainly exist.
...
> I don't care who wrote them or when.

But who wrote them is critical. And it's quite clear that they were written as part of a campagin against the Jews and designed to arouse anger and prejudice against them.

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> What the Protocols are is a crudely written plan, a
> strategy with logistic and tactical plans for the
> takeover of the world by a small group of
> conspiratorial people.

No they are part of a disinformation campaign.
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Re: Protocols are a plan and those plans are step by step being fulfilled[/

Jul 21, 2009 5:12 PM
> > What is not to believe about the Protocols?
> They
> > exist. Do a search, you will get tens of
> thousands of
> > links to them.
> ...
> > They most certainly exist.
> ...
> > I don't care who wrote them or when.
>
> But who wrote them is critical. And it's quite clear
> that they were written as part of a campagin against
> the Jews and designed to arouse anger and prejudice
> against them.
>
> ...
> > What the Protocols are is a crudely written
> plan, a
> > strategy with logistic and tactical plans for
> the
> > takeover of the world by a small group of
> > conspiratorial people.
>
> No they are part of a disinformation campaign.

It really does not matter who wrote the Protocols are when. If you download the plan for a bomb off the internet, does it matter if it was placed their by a college student doing research, a right wing reactionary, a left wing revolutionary, or some sort of terrorist? If you build the bomb I am concerned about you and that bomb, but I don't really care who place the instructions there.

The bomb is all but ready for activation. The Protocols are a protracted, orchestrated, complex, comprehensive, and effective strategy and tactics for world domination by a small group. That is being done. Some of that can be seen as just a few hands now control Western and subsequently World Banking and Finance. Likewise with just a few hands controlling the Western Hemisphere media, and subsequently the world news. We witness the division of the U.S. We witness the dumb'ing down of our citizens. We witness the breakdown of institutions and organizations that could present opposition to these few hands. We witness the destruction of the integrity of religion. We witness the destruction of Unions. We see a near global economic collapse. All these things are specific objectives laid out in the Protocols. These things I detail are just a few and there are many more not mentioned and all are laid out in the Protocols and completed.

The completion of the plan is the problem, not who wrote the plan or when they wrote the plan.

How can it be disinformation when its completion, on a step by step analysis, has been completed, mostly over the last 100 years since it surfaced to the light of day.

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Re: Right-wingers: Do you see now what you have done?

Sep 12, 2009 4:01 AM
I am a Brit and am not totally comfortable with the extremes of either position within American politics. Nonetheless, I am a student of history and much of what is written on here is simply fantasy. The idea that the 'Right-wingers' have destroyed America is just ludicrous.

Like it or not, America was built on a Christian ethos, and your fouding fathers had that in mind when they developed your constitution. George Bush is much-derided here in Europe, and in Liberal America he represents the devil himself. History will treat George Bush very differently than he is viewed today and Barak Obama is yet to be tested. Much is made of how well Mr Obama has done since coming to office. It is perhaps worth remembering that Barak Obama has not yet had to make a single decision of any importance since he came to office - in stark contrast George Bush was at this equivalent stage having to deal with a bigger crisis than Pearl Harbour. Perhaps if he has to deal with an invasion of Taiwan by the Chinese or a nuclear attack on Israel by Iran he may be seen in a very different light.

As one who has spent a considerable time in America and who is fortunate to have many wonderful American friends, I have a perspective on the current state of your country. The 18th Century belonged to the French, the 19th to the Brtitish and the 20th belonged to the United States. Every dog has its days and my observations lead me to the view that the sun is setting on yours. You are wonderful people who have blessed friend and enemy alike. Your nation, however, is falling apart on the inside through the abuse of 'freedom' and consequent moral darkness. The same nation that put a man on the moon 40 years ago has over 8 million people in jail (we in Britain have 80,000 and that is considered a huge number). You kill tens of thousands of your own citizens by firearms each year and allow the killing of millions of children in the abortion clinics of your land because it is a woman's right to choose. You parade your perversions as a badge of honor and justify them in the name of freedom. Sadly, your denial of your Christian heritage is the calculated removal of the Hand that has kept you for generations.

I love America but, like the numerous European nations who ruled the world before you did, your day is nearly done. You have been kind and gracious in victory - a feature few other dominant cultures have been able to demonstrate. You have shown a way forward to many and I hope that the Chinese who will take over from you can show the same grace you have. As you exit the stage of dominance, I for one will miss you.
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