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Last Post Nov 7, 2009 5:26 PM by: Julian773
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Demons

Nov 1, 2009 4:24 PM
A spirit, or immaterial being, holding a middle place between men and deities in pagan mythology.

Demons exist to cause harm in the lives of the living. they can manifest themselfs in anyway they like, nut they have to keep their own form while not in the body of a living thing. each is a bit different judging on what it was born in, and what caused it to become a demon.

demons are created from a spirit of a person or animal, that was truly evil, when they died their spirit left the body as what they truly looked like, while they can be visible in some sorts, they can never truly show themselfs (become truly opaque) they can install their imagine in the mind of living. they are the most powerful of all spirits, but are nothing other than ghost.

there flabby i did my research, now i have some question for you.

why did the 3 toed print have to be from bigfoot? it could have been from anything.

because demons have to manifest themselves in something, does that mean bigfoot is a real creature?

and why is the only source of information on ur kind of demon the description in the bible and you?

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Re: Demons

Nov 3, 2009 8:40 AM
The bible's view of demons is the correct one.They are actually wicked angels.They are living creatures.Unlike us,they lack a physical body.You can't see them but they are just as real as you and me.Like the bible says,they're definitely down here on Earth.All the activity(ex. cattle mutilations,crop circles,etc)and the weird stuff people see(cryptids,ghosts,aliens,etc)proves that they are real and that they are down here.

Have you noticed that the movie about alien abduction,the fourth kind,has strong paranormal or demonic overtones?Many ufo experts believe that there are many similarities between the alien/ufo phenomenom and demons.And this can be seen in this movie.I think the movie is based on true alien abduction experiences.

Anyone that doubts the existence of demons must have never heard of an ouija board.I'm not saying that you get one to see if demons exist,but I guarantee you that an ouija is real and it will definitely bring you in contact with them.Anyone that fools with one will start hearing and seeing strange things and it could result in demonic possesion.
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Re: Demons

Nov 3, 2009 9:09 AM
New Testament and Christianity

"Demon" has a number of meanings, all related to the idea of a spirit that inhabited a place, or that accompanied a person. Whether such a daemon was benevolent or malevolent, the Greek word meant something different from the later medieval notions of 'demon', and scholars debate the time in which first century usage by Jews and Christians in its original Greek sense became transformed to the later medieval sense. It should be noted that some denominations asserting Christian faith also include, exclusively or otherwise, fallen angels as de facto demons; this definition also covers the "sons of God" described in Genesis who abandoned their posts in heaven to mate with human women on Earth before the Deluge [19].

In the Gospel of Mark, Jesus casts out many demons, or evil spirits, from those who are afflicted with various ailments. Jesus is far superior to the power of demons over the beings that they inhabit, and he is able to free these victims by commanding and casting out the demons, by binding them, and forbidding them to return. Jesus also apparently lends this power to some of his disciples, who rejoice at their new found ability to cast out all demons. [20]

By way of contrast, in the book of Acts a group of Judaistic exorcists known as the sons of Sceva try to cast out a very powerful spirit without believing in or knowing Jesus, but fail with disastrous consequences. However Jesus himself never fails to vanquish a demon, no matter how powerful (see the account of the demon-possessed man at Gerasim), and even defeats Satan in the wilderness (see Gospel of Matthew).

There is a description in the Book of Revelation 12:7-17 of a battle between God's army and Satan's followers, and their subsequent expulsion from Heaven to earth to persecute humans — although this event is related as being foretold and taking place in the future. In Luke 10:18 it is mentioned that a power granted by Jesus to control demons made Satan "fall like lightning from heaven."

Augustine of Hippo's reading of Plotinus, in City of God (ch.11) is ambiguous as to whether daemons had become 'demonized' by the early 5th century:

"He [Plotinus] also states that the blessed are called in Greek eudaimones, because they are good souls, that is to say, good demons, confirming his opinion that the souls of men are demons.[21]

The contemporary Roman Catholic Church unequivocally teaches that angels and demons are real personal beings, not just symbolic devices. The Catholic Church has a cadre of officially sanctioned exorcists which perform many exorcisms each year. The exorcists of the Catholic Church teach that demons attack humans continually but that afflicted persons can be effectively healed and protected either by the formal rite of exorcism, authorized to be performed only by bishops and those they designate, or by prayers of deliverance which any Christian can offer for themselves or others.[22]

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Re: Demons

Nov 3, 2009 9:13 AM
Demonologies

At various times in Christian history, attempts have been made to classify these beings according to various proposed demonic hierarchies.

According to most Christian demonology demons will be eternally punished and never reconciled with God. Other theories postulate a Universal reconciliation, in which Satan, the fallen angels, and the souls of the dead that were condemned to Hell are reconciled with God. This doctrine is today often associated with the Unification Church. Origen, Jerome and Gregory of Nyssa also mentioned this possibility.

In contemporary Christianity, demons are generally considered to be angels who fell from grace by rebelling against God. Some contest that this view, championed by Origen, Augustine and John Chrysostom, arose during the 6th century. Another theory that may have preceded or co-existed with the hypothesis of fallen angels was that demons were ostracized from Heaven for the primary sin of mating with mortal women, giving rise to a race of half-human giants known as the Nephilim. That theory is accepted by some contemporary Christian sects. However, about demons or fallen angels mating with mortal woman is purely false. The sons of God mating with the daughters of men is about the down line of Seth the son of Adam, mating with the down line of Cain, the murder's daughters and thereby creating men of renown. The result is that they were unevenly yoked creating a bastard generation for which reason, God sent the deluge. Similar to the Israelites marring outside their race.

There are still others who say that the sin of the angels was pride and disobedience. It seems quite certain that these were the sins that caused Satan's downfall (Ezek. 28). If this be the true view then we are to understand the words, "estate" or "principality" in Deuteronomy 32:8 and Jude 6 ("And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.") as indicating that instead of being satisfied with the dignity once for all assigned to them under the Son of God, they aspired higher.

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Re: Demons

Nov 3, 2009 9:15 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_demonology

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Re: Demons

Nov 3, 2009 9:19 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classification_of_demons

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Re: Demons

Nov 3, 2009 9:24 AM
>They
> are actually wicked angels.They are living
> creatures.Unlike us,they lack a physical body.You
> can't see them but they are just as real

I like how those statements contradict each other.

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Re: Demons

Nov 3, 2009 9:32 AM
FLABBY,READ EVREYTHING I POSTED

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Re: Demons

Nov 3, 2009 11:19 AM
>>Unlike us,they lack a physical body.You can't see them but they are just as real as you and me.Like the bible says,they're definitely down here on Earth.All the activity(ex. cattle mutilations,crop circles,etc)and the weird stuff people see(cryptids,ghosts,aliens,etc)proves that they are real and that they are down here.<<

If theories are correct, sasquatches are either remnants of Gigantopithecus species or descendants of Giganto. We know Giganto existed due to fossil remains we've found. Demons don't leave fossil remains.

>>Unlike us,they lack a physical body.You can't see them but they are just as real as you and me.Like the bible says,they're definitely down here on Earth.All the activity(ex. cattle mutilations,crop circles,etc)and the weird stuff people see(cryptids,ghosts,aliens,etc)proves that they are real and that they are down here.<<

I'm not possessed; Ouija boards are fake.

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Re: Demons

Nov 3, 2009 11:23 AM
but thats wher ur wrong, demons are nothing but evil people or animals, they are mean ghosts. thats all. flabby u dont get it do u? if u cant see something but it still moves objects then it is energy like a ghost, but they arent really there.

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Re: Demons

Nov 3, 2009 2:09 PM
ok, mrflabby. you might watn to check out studies on angelophany or just buy The complete Idiot's guide to Angels which explians demons as well. First, Angel do have coporeal bodies according to the Bible hince the Nephilum, human/demon hybrids, which was one reason for the floood. so you want to quote a source make sure you have it right. But to support you partially it is possible that demons could have some influence in the things you mentioned...afterall most cultures in the world do recognize the existance of demons. but like other cryptid beasts...until it is proven it is all speculation. and until one theory gets proven we cant discount any. to discount any theory is ignorant and unscientific. so, i might ask mrflabby to gain more historical evidence, but i might ask for you to remember that not everything is interrelated. and for the rest of you how dare you disqualify a theory without any base for disproving the theory. if this history channel website forum want to be taken seriously be please act serious without the dumb banter. if not why are you on here but to not just discredit but act a fool...for those who want this to be real i would suggest ignoring ingorance on this forum....and i dare someone to say something smart becauswe of course you will and thus proving my point.
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Re: Demons

Nov 4, 2009 12:34 PM
dontwatch,ouija boards aren't fake.Monsterman,that statement isn't a contradiction.Demons are lifeforms.Spirit creatures lack a physical body.
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Re: Demons

Nov 4, 2009 12:38 PM
READ THE LINKS AND TEXT I POSTED! DEMONS IN CHRISTIANITY ARE NOTHING LIKE YOUR DESCRIBING THEM!

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Re: Demons

Nov 4, 2009 5:04 PM
Mr. Flabby : Ouija boards are fake.

>>Demons are lifeforms.Spirit creatures lack a physical body.<<

Then how do they eat and leave footprints? How do they affect the physical world? Magic?

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Re: Demons

Nov 4, 2009 6:40 PM
MRFLABBY did you look up angleophany like i suggested? You are contradicting yourself continually. Demons can take physical form thus the Nephilum (which is mentioned not just in the Bible but discribed in other religions as well). If you, MRFLABBY, keep quoting the Bible you cant just take bits and pieces (look up hermonuetics, study that then you can quote to your hearts content). The Bible says demons laid with women, yes physically and had babies. Im using your source of information. If you disprove this you discredit your own source. Prove me wrong...
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