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Dec 12, 2007 8:59 PM
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I was raised in the Missouri Ozarks during the 60's and 70's and we saw them all the time. We lived way out in the sticks and it was so quiet that of a night we would go outside and listen to them cry. One time the local REA was working on some lines when they saw a black one on a limb, it scared the crap out of them. I am in Southern Illinois at the moment and there is reports here of cats, one person got one on his game cam but the "local expert idiot trapper" says it's not a panther but a bobcat. I saw the picture and it's definely a panther. I will try and find the picture, it was in the local paper here so it will probably not look very good. They (people here where I am in Illinois) didn't know there was any big cats here until the mid-90's when a local hunter was down in some bottoms here and saw one. He won't reveal his name but it's reported that he gave up hunting. When some of the people here reported seeing big cats the conservation dept. here denied it. But it was leaked out that there was some turned lose to control the deer population. I think if you wanted to control that you would issue more deer permits instead of big cats.
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Dec 12, 2007 9:06 PM
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The show tonight was very interesting as I know someone that has seen a black cat near Aline, Oklahoma. He was hunting coyotes and had several minutes to watch the cat while in hiding. Another thing awhile back I asked my cousin about cats around here and his cousin when out to a farm near Goltry , oklahoma to look at some machinery and when he walked in back of the barn with the farmer there were holding pens with black jaguars in the pens,makes me wonder if people are letting them go or they have escaped an are spreading . ????????
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Dec 12, 2007 9:14 PM
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I have never written anything on the internet before but feel that I must respond to the show about Big cats. I live in Bath County Virginia, right near an area called Panthers Gap. Big Black Cats are no secret here, Many people have had many sightings in this county. I saw a huge one when just a kid at 16 years old as it crossed the road in front of my car. It leaped of the bank, planting it's feet on the double yellow line and made one more jump and was gone. It was coal black and very big. It was not a big deal cause they are known to live in these mountains, they are just elusive. About four years ago right in Panthers gap I saw three kittens, two were brown like a puma and one was black like a panther, but all three were seen together, and not just by me alone. I saw the kittens twice that year and then I saw another one near by, but several miles away.
If this is what you see here riding down the road it makes one wonder what else is in the forest around here. This county does not even have a single stop light in it, just hunting camps, woods and a big resort hotel called the Homestead, Ideal territory. I find it absurd that a scientist declare that they could not exist therefore everyone is wrong. Not too far from here, this county borders West Virginia, Franklin is not very far away either, where the man on the show filmed a Big Black Cat.
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Dec 12, 2007 9:16 PM
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These big black cats do exist and they are called Black Panthers around here. My elders told stories of a womens scream being heard and that it was a black panther. I had never expeiranced this until four to five years ago when I heard one. It almost makes you want to go find the source b/c it is so wicked. During this same time I saw one pass over a highway very close to my home and it was very large. A couple of years later I saw one at night in the middle of the highway north of Nashville,Ga.
It was eating a dead animal. I wanted to call the DNR there, but never did. I have hunted and fished all
ofmy life and these were the only encounters I have had and I probably will never see one again. I dont think they are a threat to humans b/c they are so rare. I have seen large house cats, lots of bob cats and in different colors but never black. What I saw was much, much larger and not a domestic house cat. When you see one and it makes the hair stand up on your neck, you know what you have seen.
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Dec 12, 2007 9:55 PM
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I've lived in Mississippi all my life and grew up through childhood thinking black panthers were a varified but rare animal seen in Mississippi because so many people have seemed to have seen or heard them and talked about it like it was nothing. There is no doubt in my mind they exist. Most everyone I have talked to about them refer to them being seen near a river, in river bottoms, or wetland type areas. I even knew a guy who claimed to have seen one while hunting on his hunting property near a river. He said that one morning he was hunting in a stand, and while watching a doe feed in a food plot noticed something black in the tall grass next to the food plot about 2-3 feet away from the deer. He was amazed that the doe did not realize it was there because a deer's senses are so great. He said the big cat leaped on the deer bringing it down. He said he ran out of there as fast as he could and has never been back since. If a deer didn't know the cat was hunting him how would any man know.
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Dec 12, 2007 10:00 PM
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Where did they find these so called experts? Seems these so called experts don't know much about this subject.
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Dec 12, 2007 10:10 PM
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Seems to me they need to do a little more research before they weigh in on this subject.
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Dec 12, 2007 11:01 PM
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I wanna know who the heck the expert was that said we were seeing these cats "In our Heads" ??? Was I the only one that thought "What the heck are talking about?" What does a big black cat climbing down a rope and people wanting to lift it's tail and lick it's butt got anything what so ever to do with black panthers?
I live in SW Missouri and have seen one. My husband has seen them on 3 different occasions, one of which ,the cat was being chased out of the timber by some hound dogs.
As far as Jaguars not coming this far north, whatever. 10 years ago it was unheard of to see an armadillo up here in Missouri. Now there so many you see them dead by the road all the time.
The video in the show was excellent footage!!! And the forensic expert clearly pointed out that it was way to big to be a domestic cat. I'm with ya'll, they were asking the wrong bunch of people. Look how many here has seen them without a doubt. They should do an update show and ask more people about their experiences.
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Dec 12, 2007 11:15 PM
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I have been a fan of MonsterQuest, but I am highly disconcerted that proper research was not conducted on the Big Black Cats show. A large, black-furred feline does, in fact, roam the southern United States. It is well known to science and has been described in numerous Zoological research journals.
It is part of the puma genus, but it is not a classic cougar. It's called a Jaguarundi. Not quite as large as a cougar, but much bigger than a housecat.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaguarundi
http://www.saveamericasforests.org/Yasuni/Pics/jaguarundi.jpg
Mystery solved.
It's really too bad they didn't research this phenomenon properly. So much for my faith in the scientific veracity of this show.
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Dec 12, 2007 11:41 PM
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If I remember the show correctly, they never mentioned anything about the 2 guys who set up their own game cams. Did they get any pictures of anything? Lulu, I am from South Central Missouri and I know what you are talking about. Armadillo's are as numerous as Possum's on the road. I call them hard shell ones, lol.
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Dec 12, 2007 11:47 PM
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I have lived in northeast Texas my entire life and i have hunted my families 1500 acre ranch since i was 10 years old. I have seen these black cats walk under my deer stand many times. On one occasion i actually saw a mother with 2 cubs. My friends and i have seen, 2 of these black cat dead in the road . Both were around 3 1/2 foot long with a tail around 20 inch long. Weighing in at around 100 pounds. That's just my guess. We never weighed the dead body. We do not hunt these black cats because of how majestic and beautiful they are. I'm going to set out camera traps in area's where i have seen them recently and i hope to have pictures soon.
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Dec 12, 2007 11:53 PM
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I lived in Warner Robins,Ga which is located directly south of Macon. I was scouting some possible areas to hunt deer on Georgia Dept. of Natural Resources hunting area known as Oaky Woods in Kathleen, Ga. As me and two of my friends were driving down an old logging road that was almost completely grown over with underbrush something caught my friends attention. He stopped the truck and we could see a VERY large cat looking at us in a tree. The creature was only 10 to 15 feet away and about 6 feet up in the tree. I couldn't tell you it's exact size but I can say it was NOT your standard domestic cat (I own a 23 lb cat so I know what a large domestic cat looks like) My friend Chris looked at it thru his binoculars and was amazed at how big it was he thought he could take it down with his rifle but before could get it off the rack and load it the large cat got spooked and leaped from the tree. As it landed you could tell that it had to be at least a hundred pounds by the noise it made when it went thru the underbrush. Because of the thick underbrush and being completely scared we dared not go looking for it. I have met only one other person who says they too have seen a LARGE black cat in Oaky Woods and he said that was 24 years ago and he nor anyone in my group have ever seen it or any other Large black cat in that area. You must consider that Oaky Woods is at least 1500 acres of dense woods and the only roads are old logging roads (ATV's are only allowed on the logging roads) and most hunters (knowing they will have to haul their kill out on foot)only travel a couple hundred yards into the woods. God only knows what is in the deepest parts of those woods. So yes I believe in LARGE black cats and no one could ever convince me otherwise
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Dec 12, 2007 11:54 PM
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Thanks quietstorm, that would be great if you get some pictures.
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Yeah, what Area 51 says, pictures would be a great idea !! I only wish I woulda had a camera with me when I saw one. Instead I had my .270, I was deer hunting. There's been alotta times I wished I'd had a camera out in the timber with me. Maybe one of these years I'll remember to grab it as I head out the door. (haha)
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