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I hope they turn it down.
May 25, 2002 1:08 PM
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It's hard to believe we've been giving them so much money for so many years......considering everything. Memories of the PLO come to mind.
Palestinian Groups Reject U.S. Aid
Fri May 24, 1:55 PM ET
By IBRAHIM HAZBOUN, Associated Press Writer
JERUSALEM (AP) - Dozens of Palestinian groups and leaders called Friday for refusal of aid from the U.S. government because of its support of Israel, according to a statement.
Among the 84 parties, organizations and individuals listed on the statement are Fatah (news - web sites), Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat (news - web sites)'s movement, and Hanan Ashrawi, a legislator and commentator who is well-known internationally. Also, nine non-governmental groups signed. The statement was distributed by LAW, a Palestinian human rights group, asking for additional signatures.
Palestinian human rights activist Khader Shkirat said the United States "supports Israeli crimes and with the other hand gives humanitarian aid to the Palestinians, and that is not acceptable."
The statement highlighted the Jenin Palestinian refugee camp, scene of the heaviest fighting during Israel's large-scale offensive in the West Bank that ended early this month, charging the United States with backing the Israeli offensive and then offering aid to the Palestinian victims.
In eight days of battles between Israeli soldiers and armed Palestinians in the camp, 52 Palestinians were killed, according to hospital officials, along with 23 Israeli soldiers. A section in the center of the camp was destroyed when Israeli bulldozers and tanks knocked down buildings.
Path Kabra of the U.S. Consulate in Jerusalem said that USAID, the American foreign aid agency, would have no response "to this boycott call." She added, "USAID is going to continue to assist as much as possible, and there have been requests from other donors and Palestinian officials that it continue to do so."
For the year ending in September, USAID has allocated $460 million for the Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza, according to an official USAID document.
The statement called on "all Palestinian non-governmental organizations to refuse any form of cooperation with USAID and turn down any USAID direct or indirect grants ... in protest of the American official support for (the) Israeli government's crimes against our people."
Others listed on the statement are Haider Abdel Shafi, a prominent Gaza figure; The Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine and Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine, radical groups; two universities, and several members of the Palestinian parliament.
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May 25, 2002 1:59 PM
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It is a matter of basic dignity to refuse US aid in this case. The US gives something on the order of 5$5 billion per year to Israel. The US also services Israel's debt to the US. The US opposes any UN attempt to hold Israel responsible for violations of international law. If we accessories before the fact for Israel's crimes against Palestine, how can thay accept aid from our bloody hands?
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May 25, 2002 2:02 PM
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dignity, they should have refused the money before now.
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May 25, 2002 2:46 PM
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our recent backing of Israeli atrocities was the straw that broke the camels back! You can't support the enslavement of a people, and then turn around and say, OOOOh poor people!
Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more, Or close the wall up with our English dead!
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May 25, 2002 3:10 PM
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We have backed Israel all along. Why the wake up call for those in Palestine, who were happy to take our money before, while suffering from the evil Israelis all these years. I'll tell you what it is, it's another PR-jump-on-the-bandwagon ploy to go along with the call for boycotting US goods. If they truly had principles and dignity they wouldn't have been sending out their children to blow themselves, and anyone they could find, to kingdom come.
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May 25, 2002 3:49 PM
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We, the US never backed Israeli 'atrocities', and come to think of it, what 'atrocities' would you be referring to? And 'enslavement' isn't accurate either, that's just not true.
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May 25, 2002 5:50 PM
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but don't let it happen again. I haven't heard of one father or mother who has sent their child out to be blown up. Please enlighten me on this.
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May 25, 2002 5:57 PM
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Israel to the hilt, and said thank you every time they skrewed us, "USS Liberty," and other atrocities. Enslavement is a good word for it. They certainly aren't free to move about the country as anyone else is allowed to. They certainly don't have rights as an Israeli. The land the Israelis' have offered is broken up into pieces, with Israeli settlements throughout the land, and the Palestinians are not free to move between the areas at will. It may not be what you think of as a slave state, but it's darn close.
Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more, Or close the wall up with our English dead!
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May 25, 2002 9:00 PM
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Are you ready?
Didn't you see the photo of the father who had a beautiful little girl on his shoulders? His daughter had fake dynamite strapped around her waist. Or the photos of funeral processions in the ME, with little boys leading the procession with dynamite (fake) strapped around their waists. The schools and tv shows that glorify 'martyrs'.
This is just a small bit of what I remember off the top of my head.
And, Bodie, thank you for excusing me, I appreciate it.
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May 25, 2002 9:06 PM
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still isn't a close word for it. No one is keeping those people there, or exchanging them for money. There is no buying and selling people by Israelis. Actually, a few Islamic countries like to do that.
I will not defend Israels strong hand tactics either, though. I was speaking of your ......exaggerated use of the word slavery.
I see what you mean about 'atrocities'. Yet, I don't think that is what the general US public was aware of or wanted. The USS Liberty was wrong, and I would say individual polititions made judgement calls without our approval.
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May 25, 2002 9:27 PM
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slavery isn't a good word to use. Actually slaves had a better life, since you have to keep your property alive, healthy and fed. Nothing that Israel, under it's present administration advocates!
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May 25, 2002 9:31 PM
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That is the appropriate word! I still haven't seen any evidence of mothers or fathers shoving their children out the door with real dynamite on. When I was a child I had fake guns, too, and shot the bad Indian, but I didn't kill anyone! I was only emulating the hero of the day, as these children were doing.
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May 25, 2002 9:35 PM
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my point, honey............
You asked me to show you some proof, and I gave it. It IS significant that the parents are encouraging and teaching their children that suicide/murders are LEGITIMATE and to be considered HONORED.
Very different than playing cowboys and Indians. Or even 'Lost in Space' like we did. 
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"Slaves have a better life"
May 25, 2002 9:39 PM
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OH!~~~SO, NOT!
I'm sorry, sweetheart, but you've really gone out here. This is something you'll have to prove to me with evidence. I don't see that slaves being kept alive and still a slave as being better than the Palestinians where they live and have the freedom to leave if they choose.
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May 25, 2002 9:42 PM
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I didn't miss the point, and me lovely, you didn't prove a thing except that children all over the world play games emulating their heroes. The parents of these children are not encouraging their children to do anything more than our parents did. When my parents gave me a cowboy hat and toy pistol, it didn't come with instructions from the company, or directions from my parents on how and why to kill Indians. Cowboys were the heroes of my day, and the people who give their lives for the freedom of the Palestinian people are the heroes of the Palestinian children.
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