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Nov 18, 2008 8:29 PM
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Lakota,
My Hawk friends are ever more active lately, passing me while in my vehicle, staring at me perched upon tree brances, telephone poles etc. I saw a beautiful specimen move from one perch to another, stop and watch me go by. What is unusual is that they seem to wait for my vehicle before moving. I can be in a line (not bumper to bumper like the cities) and the Hawk will seemingly wait for me before performing some flight and/or relocation. I always smile and greet them, funny thing is, I don't feel silly for doing it.
best,
swampy
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God, help me to love more today, than I did yesterday.
Is there anybody out there?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MaLmg40Bd0&feature=related
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Re: What is Gods true church?
Nov 19, 2008 8:09 AM
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mcdan----OK ,lets start talking about your church's early Christian history, and if you can't trace it back to Jesus and His Apostles then let it be you who should humble himself and puts his tail between his leg
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Nov 19, 2008 1:50 PM
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> Hi Lakota,
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> The sacred feminine lives on within you, my friend,
> so it is not extinct.
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> best,
> swampy
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> lol, thanks , I try. Her four legged and feathered
> children are my congregation, our cathedral is the
> forest, and each breeze the holy spirit. But then,
> you know all that, too dontcha babe? I keep sending
> my small voice up to Big Momma praying that she won't
> be too hard on us, and especially on the other
> creatuires on the planet when she decides to
> discipline us. Momma can be a stern teacher, and when
> she smacks you, you know you have been smacked, and
> you know you also deserved it. Right now I think she
> is pretty POed at us humans, after all , we haven't
> sent her a Mother's Day card for 2000 years or so.
> That is a lot of payback we have accrued. Right now
> she has her sleeves rolled up, I think the scrubbing
> is about to commence. eek! lol
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> Things are real only after one has learned to agree
> on their realness.
> (Don Juan Matus)
I'm reminded of an old quote of unknown origin.
"Does a mother robin know that she is loved by her babies, even tho she doesn't get a 'mother's day card'?"
Big momma, big poppa or whatever isn't PO'd. S/he/it is allowing us to work out our personal and societal karma. Obama appears to be a step toward improving the world (whether we survive this depression or not). A world wide depression might be like a big laxative to rid us false beliefs.
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Absolut is my altar wine; absolute-ly!
LIVE, LAFF, LOVE AND BE HAPPY!
may the light of knowledge illuminate our ignorance!
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Re: What is Gods true church?
Nov 29, 2008 5:23 PM
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> What is this, some kind of ploy? I suspect you're
> looking for some kind of argument. It doesn't sound
> like you're sincere.
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> The Church isn't a building or structure, Sunday
> school kindergarten children know this. But they are
> believers who are literally the Church, that assemble
> in these structures. Jesus is the Head and believers
> are His Body. Not forsaking the assembling of
> ourselves together. Where two or three are gathered
> together in My name, there Am I in the midst of them.
> You could gather together in a cotton field, in
> prison, atop MT Kilimanjaro, Jesus is in the midst.
> Subsequently believers has to be the Church.
No I am not trying to start an arguement or single out any group or persons in particular. I am begginning to like you f22 regardless of past disagreements, you sir and 5 others are the only ones who have answered correctly. For this I have a new found respect for the 6 of you. You did not try to claim the " we were here first " line I here on a regular basis. Gods' church is where the believers are. As too whom are the true believers are.... That is up to God to decide. We as humans regardless of what powers God may or may not have given us are not to be out telling the rest of the world who they as men, believe are true christians.
The rest of you whos' claims of fame are simple timelines and boasting of who was there first have a long way to go. The truth is there, read and it will reveal itself. God does not care about which group did this or that, He cares about your soul and how you develop as a christian. So to those of you who choose to bash and belittle others, you are not being very christian. And here's another surprise.... God is watching you and your perverted ways. If you keep slandering and lying about others, the Devil may already have his hands on you.
Please read the Frederick Nietze Comment I have posted below, it may pertain to some of you.
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If a man says something but there is no woman around, is he still wrong?
He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.
The hardest thing in life is letting go of that you thought was real.
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Re: What is Gods true church?
Nov 29, 2008 5:58 PM
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mccurd -
As to your demand for proof from Holy Scripture. which is in ALL biblees BTW:
Christ said to St. Peter and to other of the Apostles aka, His disciples, "...I will build My Church...". [Matt 16:18].
Since Christ addressed those who had been learning His teachings and who had followed Him aka, His Apostles, He told them in those 5 words that HIS Church is the one He established with those He addressed aka, the Apostles.
Therefore, He didn't establish His Church with Hindus, or with Buddhists; and since He lived in the 1st Century, He didn't establish His Church with 16th Century plus Protestants.
The Church He estabished is known as the RC/EO Church, the RC/EO Church traces it's establishment back to Christ, as per generally accepted historical proof, which no one has been able to rebuke in over 2,000 years.
In addition and as per my tagline below, even Martin Luther knew those Biblical and historical FACTS.............
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Luther admitted in 1528: "We confess that under the papacy there is...the whole Christianity...has from thence come to us. We confess...the papacy possesses the genuine Scriptures, genuine baptism, the genuine sacrament of the altar, the genuine keys for the remission of sins, the true ministry, the true catechism, the Ten Commandments, the articles of the Creed, the Lord's Prayer. I say...under the Pope is the true Christendom...the very élite of Christendom, and many pious and great saints."
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Re: What is Gods true church?
Nov 29, 2008 6:09 PM
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mccurd -
Regarding this tagline of yours....
> The hardest thing in life is letting go of that you
> thought was real.
As per my prior post to you, the RC/EO Church is the Real Thing, hands down. And just so you don't end up wasting your time by responding to me with some 'brainwashing hypothesis", here's the scoop:
I'm a Catholic revert, which means I questioned everything the RC taught and found out BY my questions that the RC [with or without the EO] is the Real Thing.
However, there ARE two choices regarding these facts and those two choices are: take it, or leave it.
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Luther admitted in 1528: "We confess that under the papacy there is...the whole Christianity...has from thence come to us. We confess...the papacy possesses the genuine Scriptures, genuine baptism, the genuine sacrament of the altar, the genuine keys for the remission of sins, the true ministry, the true catechism, the Ten Commandments, the articles of the Creed, the Lord's Prayer. I say...under the Pope is the true Christendom...the very élite of Christendom, and many pious and great saints."
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Re: What is Gods true church?
Nov 29, 2008 7:59 PM
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"If a man says something but there is no woman around, is he still wrong?"
Wow! Nietzsche said that? Smart guy! 
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"God's words discerns the intentions of the heart. Those who claim to represent it but reject it reveal their heart condition before God and all men."
Victrix Solidarus
"I am not concerned with scriptural reasoning."
St. Augie
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Re: What is Gods true church?
Nov 29, 2008 8:52 PM
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Nietzche thought he was a horse...
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Ok, I got bored.
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Re: What is Gods true church?
Nov 30, 2008 12:47 AM
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Nietzche thought he was a horse...
I hear he was part right.
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I've gone to find myself.
If I return before I get back, please have me wait.
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Re: What is Gods true church?
Nov 30, 2008 7:07 AM
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> mccurd -
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> Regarding this tagline of yours....
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> > The hardest thing in life is letting go of that
> you
> > thought was real.
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> As per my prior post to you, the RC/EO Church is the
> Real Thing, hands down.
Believe as you choose, I am not here to judge you. Only God can do that not some man in a pulpit or me or any of the fools in the world who claim they can.
My entire point is to show how many of you claim to be the members of the real deal, when in fact none of us has the right to claim anything.
Live your life as you read and interpret the Bible, do things as " christians ". Do not follow the masses, be simple and humble. Go the distance, do not be a stumbling block for others, do not name call and make wild un- proven claims to the world about who was first and who is better than thee.
No one of us humans knows which is the God proven style of church, brand of christianity or any of that jazz.
Only God knows. That is the answer to all of it. The real truth is that it is hard to let go of what we thought was real. We have been spoon fed mans doctrine for 2000 plus years and not one of you can deny it. Who translated the Bible? man. Who teaches teaches the Bible to you on your day of observance? man. People use your brains and stop being brainwashed by the masses of others, don't be like cattle and follow because your friends do.
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If a man says something but there is no woman around, is he still wrong?
He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.
The hardest thing in life is letting go of that you thought was real.
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Re: What is Gods true church?
Nov 30, 2008 7:12 AM
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> "If a man says something but there is no woman
> around, is he still wrong?"
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> Wow! Nietzsche said that? Smart guy!
I really wanted people to read and react to this one :
He who fights with monsters might take care lest he too becomes a monster. If you gaze into the abyss the abyss gazes also into you.
But it is a good saying as well, reminds me that I am wrong at least half of my day.
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If a man says something but there is no woman around, is he still wrong?
He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.
The hardest thing in life is letting go of that you thought was real.
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Re: What is Gods true church?
Nov 30, 2008 7:51 AM
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Barry - you seem to think that 'antiquity' is a plus in your beliefs. That a 19th century religious denomination (not a cult; it is much too large) is somehow less able to access truth than one whose beliefs formed in the 4th century AD. Well, when RC formed, people believed that the sun revolved around the earth, that women were formed from Adam's rib, that God sent rain, that the heart was the thinking center of the body (and that blood didn't circulate), that monsters lurked in the sea, and that you could sail over the edge of the flat earth and vanish.
We've come a long way since then. Religiously, too.
And, fyi, you won't see the word "Bible" used in the Bible to refer to the Bible. Why? Because Bible only means - "Book". From Byblos, where books were first made and bound. And since Jesus EXPECTED THE WORLD TO END WITHIN HIS DISCIPLES' LIFETIME, he never intended to have a book written with his words in it - there was neither time, nor need. Word of mouth preaching was sufficient.
(You must never forget that Jesus's prophecies were all, entirely, WRONG. No divine being would be that lame).
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Re: What is Gods true church?
Nov 30, 2008 7:54 AM
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> "If a man says something but there is no woman
> around, is he still wrong?"
Only if there is a Priest, Elder, or Shaman standing within earshot.
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Re: What is Gods true church?
Nov 30, 2008 8:17 AM
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Bob - I really like your phrasing about the carnies standing outside of God's house trying to sell maps and tickets. Very memorable, and (imho) quite apt.
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Re: What is Gods true church?
Nov 30, 2008 8:26 AM
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Mornin' McD,
Have you ever heard that there are as many realities as there are people? I tend to think that there are as many illusions as there are people, but then that may be an illusion itself.
best,
swampy
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God, help me to love more today, than I did yesterday.
Is there anybody in there?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1u489DqbMQ
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