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One more time fo 4a: And there was in their synagogue a man with an unclean spirit; and he cried out Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out. Then said Jesus unto him, Go, and do thou likewise. Likewise also said all the disciples. Then said Jesus unto him, That thou doest, do quickly. And there was Mary Magdalene, and the other Mary, sitting over against the sepulchre. And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God. So they threw her down: and some of her blood was sprinkled on the wall, and on the horses: and he trode her under foot. Therefore they gathered them together, and filled twelve baskets with the fragments And, behold, there came a great wind from the wilderness, and smote the four corners of the house, and it fell upon the young men, and they are dead; and I only am escaped alone to tell thee. -- "And when I speak of his theology being “catholic” I do not mean universal as is often now used, and which is a simplistic corruption of the word. Rather I mean “catholic” as St. Cyprian used it in 251, and as Dr. Douglas Kelly has used the word, as the opposite of the word “heresy.” - Michael A. Milton, Ph.D
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I understand what you are showing, the problem with those that you showed, is that they have nothing to do with one another and they were just pasted together to make a new story. That is not what I do. There are hidden meanings(manna) in all of the stories of the bible, but most people do not ask God to help them understand. They just choose to read the words never coming to the understanding of the knowledge hidden in the parables in the bible. Do you think that Jesus taught us about parables, and then gave us all of the parables and showed us what they mean so that ANY one reading would find them? No, he gave you just a few examples, so that those with eyes to see would know how to find them and understand. Only the Holy Spirit can give you this hidden manna. And unlike another who posts about hidden manna being some secret knowledge of outerspace, all hidden manna is in the bible. If you hear something that does not line up with the Word, don't believe it. When I give you cut and paste jobs, it is because I am trying to show you something, but if you go and read around them for yourself, they should not counterdict any thing I have shown. But you should never just take my word without checking it out, nor any man's word, unless it lines up with God's Word. But I do say, without the Holy Spirit indwelling you, you will not be able to understand most things. The Holy Spirit will confirm something as truth, or reject it as false. And may I remind you, that we as believers are not to swear by anything, our words are binding. Matt 5:33-37 33 Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths: 34 But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne: 35 Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King. 36 Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black. 37 But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil. KJV -- Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. 13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.KJV
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Aug 29, 2009 11:49 AM
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You have illustrated the primary reason I ignore "scripture dumps" in a discussion in lieu of someone expressing their own ideas/interpretations. For other sources such tactics are called "quote mining". Its a typical ploy for someone whose underlying premise is inherently dishonest. As usual its seen in such groups as Creationists, Holocaust deniers and Conspiracy nuts. -- If irony were strawberries we would all be having smoothies right now.
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Its a typical ploy for someone whose underlying premise is inherently dishonest. As usual its seen in such groups as Creationists, Holocaust deniers and Conspiracy nuts. I've noticed that fundamentalist atheists are fond of it, too. -- "And when I speak of his theology being “catholic” I do not mean universal as is often now used, and which is a simplistic corruption of the word. Rather I mean “catholic” as St. Cyprian used it in 251, and as Dr. Douglas Kelly has used the word, as the opposite of the word “heresy.” - Michael A. Milton, Ph.D
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Aug 29, 2009 12:38 PM
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Believe what you will, I have done my part. -- Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. 13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.KJV
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Aug 29, 2009 12:57 PM
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I swear that this is the way some of you read the Bible. You know who you are. These are real Bible verses, pulled out of their context and pasted in such a way as to tell an entirely different story. Thus the need for me.
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Aug 29, 2009 1:23 PM
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Thus the need for me. Another incarnation of Mark, no doubt... -- "And when I speak of his theology being “catholic” I do not mean universal as is often now used, and which is a simplistic corruption of the word. Rather I mean “catholic” as St. Cyprian used it in 251, and as Dr. Douglas Kelly has used the word, as the opposite of the word “heresy.” - Michael A. Milton, Ph.D
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Aug 29, 2009 1:47 PM
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> I swear that this is the way some of you read the > Bible. You know who you are. These are real Bible > verses, pulled out of their context and pasted in > such a way as to tell an entirely different > story. > > Thus the need for me. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mark, is this you again? -- Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. 13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.KJV
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Aug 29, 2009 1:50 PM
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> Thus the need for me. > > Another incarnation of Mark, no doubt... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ How funny, I just said the same thing before reading yours -- Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. 13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.KJV
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Aug 29, 2009 2:21 PM
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You're going to believe what you want, so I guess we're even. -- "And when I speak of his theology being “catholic” I do not mean universal as is often now used, and which is a simplistic corruption of the word. Rather I mean “catholic” as St. Cyprian used it in 251, and as Dr. Douglas Kelly has used the word, as the opposite of the word “heresy.” - Michael A. Milton, Ph.D
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Aug 29, 2009 2:24 PM
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> You're going to believe what you want, so I guess > we're even. > > -- > "And when I speak of his theology > being “catholic” I do not mean universal as is often > now used, and which is a simplistic > corruption of the word. Rather I mean “catholic” as > St. Cyprian used it in 251, and as Dr. > Douglas Kelly has used the word, as the opposite of > the word “heresy.” - Michael A. Milton, Ph.D ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ No, I believe what I know, and you believe what you want, they are not at all the same thing. -- Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. 13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.KJV
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Aug 29, 2009 2:28 PM
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Another incarnation of Mark, no doubt... You must not being paying great attention in seminary school, seminary student. You will always obey your teacher having authority (bishop) when you are ordained a deacon.
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Aug 29, 2009 4:17 PM
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You ain't my Bishop. -- "And when I speak of his theology being “catholic” I do not mean universal as is often now used, and which is a simplistic corruption of the word. Rather I mean “catholic” as St. Cyprian used it in 251, and as Dr. Douglas Kelly has used the word, as the opposite of the word “heresy.” - Michael A. Milton, Ph.D
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> You ain't my Bishop. If he claims to be the pleather pants wearing Archangel Metatron, then would you listen? -- "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
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If he claims to be the pleather pants wearing Archangel Metatron, then would you listen? Nah, I don't swing that way. Not that there's anything wrong with that... -- "And when I speak of his theology being “catholic” I do not mean universal as is often now used, and which is a simplistic corruption of the word. Rather I mean “catholic” as St. Cyprian used it in 251, and as Dr. Douglas Kelly has used the word, as the opposite of the word “heresy.” - Michael A. Milton, Ph.D
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