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The sodden drunkard who caused the Protestant Reformation
Oct 26, 2009 8:44 AM
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One day a pious monk went down to the village, there he spotted a sodden drunkard laying face down in the gutter, as he attempted to get the man to his feet he told the man that he was acting disgracefully and that he was disgracing the whole village with his outrageous behavior.
The man then matter of factually informed him that he was in no way any type of a sinner and quite to the opposite, he was sure to go to Heaven when he passed on, a fact that even the pious monk could in no way state with any certainty. The man then reached into his coat pocket and produced a piece of paper that seemed to prove all of his aforementioned points, you see he had purchased a so called "indulgence" from the Catholic church that had absolved him from any and all of his sins and then further guaranteed his admittance into Heaven when he passed on, no matter what level of abominable sins he had committed while still on this earth. A little money purchased a ticket to Heaven according to "the church".
Well that started it all, the Protestant Reformation started at that very moment. You see that village was in medieval Germany and that monk was Martin Luther. He was appalled by what the official Catholic church was doing on this and a huge variety of other issues. The Catholic church had officially just thrown the bible out the window and now they were just making stuff up to suit their own needs and desires. They had become an abomination before God. And that is how the Father refers to the so called Catholic "church" to this very day, he calls it the Catholic Abomination.
Indulgences are hardly worth mentioning however in comparison to the huge variety of other deviations from the bible that are officially a part of the Catholic dogma. They are just the tiniest tip sticking out of the water of a huge iceberg of false official doctrine of the Catholic church that spits in the face of God the Father Almighty himself.
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Re: The sodden drunkard who caused the Protestant Reformation
Oct 26, 2009 12:26 PM
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It sounds silly to pay your way to heaven. YOu can be an atheist or agnostic or jew and still not believe in christ and pay your way in. You can sin all you want and deny christ and there you are in heaven. I wonder if that is how witches/warlocks got to heaven.
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Re: The sodden drunkard who caused the Protestant Reformation
Oct 28, 2009 2:38 AM
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>>"abdominal sins "
I'm intrigued. The only one I can think of off hand is gluttony.
Any other suggestions?
PS re that indulgence - was it genuine or, just possibly, something obtained by a drunk from a con man?
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Re: The sodden drunkard who caused the Protestant Reformation
Oct 28, 2009 10:17 AM
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""abominable sins "
I'm intrigued. The only one I can think of off hand is gluttony.
Any other suggestions?"
The Catholics litany of abominable sins is wide and varied.
The most easy to see is the fact that they are pagans who pray to many Gods.
They deleted the second commandment out of their version of the bible just so they could pray to old fake Mary.
She is simply the relabeled Roman God Venus that Constantine created out of thin air as someone that you can pray to.
He wanted to combine his old pagan ways of praying to Zeus and Apollo with a from of Christianity and that is the pagan/Christian hybrid called Catholicism.
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Re: The sodden drunkard who caused the Protestant Reformation
Oct 28, 2009 10:41 AM
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I think abominable is the word your'e looking for.
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Re: The sodden drunkard who caused the Protestant Reformation
Oct 28, 2009 10:50 AM
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"I think abominable is the word your'e looking for."
You are quite right.
Thank you.
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Re: The sodden drunkard who caused the Protestant Reformation
Oct 28, 2009 11:10 AM
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>>>They deleted the second commandment out of their version of the bible just so they could pray to old fake Mary.
Very old myth. Here is Exodus 10:2-17 (known as the ten commandments) from the Douai-Rheims bible - the English Catholic Bible which came out about the same time as the KJV.
2 I am the Lord thy God, who brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
3 Thou shalt not have strange gods before me.
4 Thou shalt not make to thyself a graven thing, nor the likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or in the earth beneath, nor of those things that are in the waters under the earth.
5 Thou shalt not adore them, nor serve them: I am the Lord thy God, mighty, jealous, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me:
6 And shewing mercy unto thousands to them that love me, and keep my commandments.
7 Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain: for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that shall take the name of the Lord his God in vain.
8 Remember that thou keep holy the sabbath day.
9 Six days shalt thou labour, and shalt do all thy works.
10 But on the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: thou shalt do no work on it, thou nor thy son, nor thy daughter, nor thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy beast, nor the stranger that is within thy gates.
11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, and the sea, and all things that are in them, and rested on the seventh day: therefore the Lord blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it.
12 Honour thy father and thy mother, that thou mayst be long lived upon the land which the Lord thy God will give thee.
13 Thou shalt not kill.
14 Thou shalt not commit adultery.
15 Thou shalt not steal.
16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s house; neither shalt thou desire his wife, nor his servant, nor his handmaid, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is his.
Could you tell me what you think is missing from this passage?
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Re: The sodden drunkard who caused the Protestant Reformation
Oct 28, 2009 11:18 AM
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"Could you tell me what you think is missing from this passage?"
I did not say that they edited the bible (too much).
Their fake set of 10 Commandments is simply listed in the front of their fake bible.
How do you spot a pagan? They will bow down and pray before rocks, pieces of wood, sticks, ceramics, statues. Even though it says about a hundred times in the bible that someone who would bow down and pray before rocks, sticks and statues is a "worshipper of Baal" or a pagan. If you worship more than one God then you are by definition, a pagan.
That is what a pagan is, someone who prays to a variety of so called "Gods" instead of the one true God of the bible. Catholics make prayers to the fake "virgin Mary", to "Father Joseph" and to a very wide variety of so called "saints". None of this nonsense is in the bible.
Do you pray before the relabeled Roman Venus God statue that is called "the virgin Mary?"
Then you are a pagan.
The Catholic's made up a fake set of 10 Commandments to allow for pagan worship. They removed the second commandment:
"Thou shall not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in Heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God". Exodus 20:4-5
And they replaced what it says in the real bible with some drivel for their second commandment.
When the bible points out that they are not supposed to bow down before sticks and wood (statues) and pray, they just threw out the bible. And at that point they threw out their creditability before God. Don't be confused by these pagans just because they have a black book that kind of looks like a bible and they occasionally use the word "Jesus" or "the Father". They are not Christians. And they don't even claim to be.
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Re: The sodden drunkard who caused the Protestant Reformation
Oct 29, 2009 4:34 AM
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She is simply the relabeled Roman God Venus that Constantine created out of thin air as someone that you can pray to
So there never was a Mary? And for the record, Venus was the relabeled Greek goddess Aphrodite. And Aphrodite was the goddess of love, beauty and fertility(and whatever $exual rapture is supposed to be). Does that sound like Mary to you? How did you even come to that conclusion?
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If you cut the red, then I'm gonna cut the blue!
Just three seconds left until it spells our doom!
Make a little oopsy and we all go Boom!
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Re: The sodden drunkard who caused the Protestant Reformation
Oct 29, 2009 4:37 AM
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The Catholic's made up a fake set of 10 Commandments to allow for pagan worship. They removed the second commandment:
"Thou shall not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in Heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God". Exodus 20:4-5
What if you nail a couple of two by four together, perpendicular to one another, and one end was longer than the other three? Then you pray in front of that. Would that be okay? What if you put(carve) a guy on it?
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Robonmatsu's bomb song: (done while skipping...)
Disarm the bomb! Dismantle it! That's what I'm gonna do!
If you cut the red, then I'm gonna cut the blue!
Just three seconds left until it spells our doom!
Make a little oopsy and we all go Boom!
"Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn," Chant to Cthulhu
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And with strange aeons even death may die.- Abdul Alhazred
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Re: The sodden drunkard who caused the Protestant Reformation
Oct 29, 2009 7:55 AM
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"So there never was a Mary? And for the record, Venus was the relabeled Greek goddess Aphrodite. And Aphrodite was the goddess of love, beauty and fertility(and whatever $exual rapture is supposed to be). Does that sound like Mary to you? How did you even come to that conclusion?"
There was a Mary, she was the human mother of Jesus and is a real patriarch of the Christian faith because of her work with the early church but she does not have the responsibility or even the capability of hearing much less acting on your prayers.
God the Father loves his misinformed Catholic children dearly but they do make this very meaningful error. They make the secular world assumption that if you give a prayer request that is for the son to his mother that she will then "intercede on your behalf" and make sure the prayer is delivered to her son. The big hole in that theory comes from the simple fact that the so called "virgin Mary" was never given the capability of hearing prayers from the Father.
She has lived in Heaven for over two thousand years blissfully unaware of even one of the millions upon millions of prayers that are flushed everyday by praying to her. We have somehow incorporated the traditions of men as being more important and ignore the clear and exact words that came directly from the mouth of Jesus as to the proper way to pray.
The tradition of the artificial escalation of the "virgin Mary" to the status that only the Father alone has as someone you can pray to was started by the Roman Emperor Constantine in 313 CE when he made Christianity the official religion of the Roman Empire. He wanted to hedge his bets somewhat and incorporated a pagan Venus or "Mother of Heaven" type character from his former religion into his newly adopted religion.
The foul legacy of the Catholic's and their need to pray to many Gods. A throwback to the days when that the pagan Romans had dozens of Gods such as Zeus, Apollo and Venus to choose from. Today the Catholic's pray to the so called "virgin Mary" and they also pray to all the so called "saints", which are just the old pagan Gods Zeus, Apollo, and Venus with different names.
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Re: The sodden drunkard who caused the Protestant Reformation
Oct 29, 2009 8:19 AM
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See if this helps on the sub. Ten Commandments:
Traditional Catechetical Formula
1. I am the LORD your God:
you shall not have
strange Gods before me.
2. You shall not take
the name of the Lord your God in
vain.
3. Remember to keep holy the LORD'S
Day.
4. Honor your father and your mother.
5. You shall not kill.
6. You shall not commit adultery.
7. You shall not steal.
8. You shall not bear false witness
against your neighbor.
9. you shall not covet
your neighbor's wife.
10. You shall not covet
your neighbor's goods.
That is the Catholic Church version ....
Notice when compaired to Exodus 20 vs 2-17
#1 I am the LORD......etc. somewhat same?
#2 on gods before me....etc.. totally missing? Poof
gone? what's up with that?
moving onto #3 not taking the LORDS name in vain....now
becomes #2.....
Plus, the 4th commandment Remember the sabbath day
.......which they make #3.....
We should ALL just call this one "Let's just FORget the
sabbath day altogether...shall we!" Will someone...
please tell me how and why the last day of the week...which, is Saturday,,,,,,got changed over to the
1st. day of the week....Sunday as the sabbath day of
rest??? (don't bother.....Jesus rose on the 3rd day
Sunday...that's why) But it doesn't make it right....especially when God writes these Laws and this
one with his own finger and says to "remember the sabbath day.......(I'm just saying?)
Anyway, so it continues on until we get to the end where it's prefured to team-up #9 and 10 as one. And that's that?
MG
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Re: The sodden drunkard who caused the Protestant Reformation
Oct 29, 2009 9:55 AM
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"Plus, the 4th commandment Remember the sabbath day
.......which they make #3.....
We should ALL just call this one "Let's just FORget the
sabbath day altogether...shall we!" Will someone...
please tell me how and why the last day of the week...which, is Saturday,,,,,,got changed over to the
1st. day of the week....Sunday as the sabbath day of
rest???"
Thank you Moongirl.
The Catholics are the ones who also threw out the Commandment to "remember the Sabbath day".
They forgot that God told them that the Sabbath was to be from sunset on Friday to sunset on Saturday.
The real Sabbath day is supposed to be Saturday not on Sunday.
Another Catholic abomination.
Constantine unilaterally changed the Sabbath day from the Father's designated day of Saturday to Sunday to commemorate the "sun god" Apollo.
In fact on all the coins he minted after his conversion he put both the cross of Christianity and the crown of the 'Sol Invictus', the pagan Sun god cult symbol on the back of each coin.
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Re: The sodden drunkard who caused the Protestant Reformation
Oct 29, 2009 4:38 PM
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>>Another Catholic abomination.
And Methodist, Anglican, Baptist, Presbyterian.
In fact, 99% of Christians since the time of the apostles.
Constantine changed nothing about the Sabbath. He made Sunday a day of rest for Romans - not pagans or Christians, because he still followed the cult of the Sun God.You really don't know any history at all, do you?
Sunday observance - keeping Sunday as the Lord's day - can be found in Church writings back to the early second century - c 100 AD. - more than 200 years before Constantine.
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