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Is the Dogfights: Game dissapointing??
Jul 22, 2007 6:47 PM
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I really hate to have to post this honest because I understand how much was put into this game. But I cant' help but be overwhelmed with complete dissapointment. I mean I know it's free, but coming from the people who make the brilliant show Dogfigthts I couldn't believe it.
*I have to get this off my mind, and honestly I really thought you guys would make something to compare with "Aces High 2" or maybe "IL-2 Sturmovik"
IF YOU GUYS ARE NOT SERIOUS ABOUT THIS ""GAME"" THING THEN....WELL..I'M DISSAPOINTED, BUT IF YOU'RE JUST WAITING FOR MORE IDEAS OR IN THE THOUGHT PROCESS FOR A NEW GAME THE FORGET EVERYTHING I SAID AND DO YOU DOGFIGHTS THING =D RIGHT ON!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Is the Dogfights: Game dissapointing??
Jul 22, 2007 6:55 PM
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I am basing this thoughts and suggestions off of the trailer of the current dogfights:game with ideas to change in the questionable future DOGFIGHTS GAME.
-Have joystick compatibilty
-be able to be inside the cockpit
-AND FOR SOME GOOD IDEAS PLAY AS MANY OTHER FLIGHT COMBAT SIMS AS YOU NEED *I think you did that already a tad though*
REALLY I LOVE DOGFIGHTS AND YOU GUYS ARE GODS AT YOUR THING. I LOVE PLANES AND EVERYTHING ABOUT THEM I EVEN FLY R/C PLANES.....BUT I HAVE FULL CONFIDENCE THAT IF YOU GUYS TRIED AND DEDICATED TO THIS GAME...-
*THEN THE WHOLE WORLD WOULD SEE A NEW MEANING OF "FREEKIN' AWESOME AIRWAR GAME"
YOU CAN DOOOO ITTT
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Re: Is the Dogfights: Game dissapointing??
Jul 25, 2007 11:14 AM
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In defense of the History Channel, I don't think anyone should expect much more than an arcade game as a freebie.
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Re: Is the Dogfights: Game dissapointing??
Jul 26, 2007 4:14 PM
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I completely understand where you're coming from
HOPEFULLY THERE IS A GAME not free IN THE MAKING
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Re: Is the Dogfights: Game dissapointing??
Aug 8, 2007 10:18 AM
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actually I think its a great game.... but then again I'm bad at flight sims :-P. Oh, and if you look closer, it is joystick compadible (although I'm having difficulty figuring out when the joystick is enabled I can't control the rudder. Probably overlooking something obvious.)
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Re: Is the Dogfights: Game dissapointing??
Aug 9, 2007 3:42 PM
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Hmmm...good thing I cam here. I almost downloaded it.
So you're saying its nothing more than an arcade game?
Hoo boy.
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Re: Is the Dogfights: Game dissapointing??
Aug 12, 2007 8:17 AM
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If they get in with the right game engine, they can use the game to make the series action videos.
This could spawn user videos as well which could help the sim/show greatly and increase player and viewer base............especialy with the advent of youtube.
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Re: Is the Dogfights: Game dissapointing??
Aug 18, 2007 4:42 PM
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I downloaded it and looked at it briefly; an arcade number uninteresting to a flight-sim fan.
The development of a good flight-sim game is a difficult process that involves a lot of work.
There are only a few that could be called good, if your standard is realism.
There are dozens of arcade-type flying games around.
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Re: Is the Dogfights: Game dissapointing??
Aug 19, 2007 12:54 PM
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Yes it's a joke compared with the il2 series
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Re: Is the Dogfights: Game dissapointing??
Aug 21, 2007 11:24 PM
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Hi, I'm MrDoomBringer, and I've got some experience here.
While I haven't played as many Flight sims in relation to other games, I have had some experience I'm going to immediately start assuming here, as I'm working on low amounts of information.
Earlier today I downloaded the game. First thing that I saw was that it was distributed over a game delivery system chock full of ads. While this was slightly disappointing, I remembered that it was indeed a free game, so I didn't mind.
Installing the game was nice and quick (High-speed internet for the win!) and I was happy that a game with that much detail could be downloaded that easily. Upon starting the game, I had to laugh, the game is based off of Valve's Source Engine, a physics engine from which I have had much experience. Some of you may know the engine from the popular games Half Life 2, Counter Strike: Source, and others. I quickly jumped into the options and set my resolution way higher. It also helps, I've found, to run a Source game in Windowed mode.
Once set up for my video and audio, I clicked over to the keyboard tab, and found to my dismay a very short list. I re-set the controls to use my Joystick and headed for Training.
There wasn't much training to be spoken of. I was immediately tossed into a battle with a very small and ill-descriptive HUD, a plane in front of me and my entire screen slowly rotating to the left. I tried to move the rudder with the keyboard commands to no avail, I banked to the right and down with the joystick and tried to get a sense of what was going on, what with the relatively massive explosions and random plane sounds all around me.
After smashing into the ground a few times I got the hang of the controls; but no matter what I did, I still kept slightly rotating to the left with unresponsive rudder controls. I could not aim at all, for the screen would always move to the left away from the target. I found the graphics to be of very good quality, but the total lack of a proper HUD and unusable controls just made the game unplayable.
I'm not saying that I don't like the idea behind this game, and that I don't respect the work that went into this. To make a game that uses the Source engine outside of Steam is something to marvel at. I know this from firsthand experience trying to create a modification for Half-Life 2.
However, the execution of this was not as much as I'd expect from a company, nor something I'd expect from a company at work on this for a year.
If my controls were working properly, I'm sure this would make a fine game. Other games, such as Eternal Silence (http://www.eternal-silence.net/) Has a much better execution of a flight system, with much better controls for flight.
Dogfights, the show, is excellent. It makes for a very good visual.
Dogfights, as a game, would be excellent. It would be an awesome experience, flight a plane in multiplayer, shooting at each other.
The creation of a game from the TV show proved to be quite disappointing.
Still, the possibilities remain. It is, after all, a Source-based game. If the game could be re-distributed of the Steam network (Valve's Game Delivery system, http://www.steampowered.com) then it could be better integrated into Source, and it would make it easier to produce the game.
Just my 2/100ths of a dollar. I've worked with many Source games, and I play them often. If anyone else here has a Steam account, you can normally reach me over the Friends network. My account name is "triggerhappy521", if you want to add me to friends.
This post got a lot longer than I expected.
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Re: Is the Dogfights: Game dissapointing??
Aug 22, 2007 4:52 PM
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Hey nice post DoomBringer your welcome to post whenever as long as you want, but really good post those are the kind of post we need. Ideas and criteria of that topic you guys we seriously as air-sim gamers or Airwar enthusiast, etc. can change the meaning of the phrase computer air combat sim I know I sound corny and I know the the holy-grail of flight sims *IL-2 Sturmovik series, and the soon to come Storm of Britain* (I love you 1C Maddox and you too Ubisoft...you have to have IL-2 games to know what I am talking about)games have pretty much already changed that phrase.(GOSH I JUST ABSOLUTELY SO MUCH LOVE 1C MADDOX I MEAN C'MON THAT IS SO SO SO SO SO SO SO SO MUCH WORK FROM PROGRAMMING TO PHOTO SHOTS OF WWII AIRCRAFT TYPE WORK, but any way these posts are surely encouraging and informing others. POST POST POST
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Re: Is the Dogfights: Game dissapointing??
Aug 22, 2007 4:53 PM
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DoomBringer also check out some of my other post =D we need all the ideas and thoughts we can get oh ya ooooo rah
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Re: Is the Dogfights: Game dissapointing??
Aug 26, 2007 12:56 PM
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No problem. Are you on the dev team?
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Re: Is the Dogfights: Game dissapointing??
Aug 26, 2007 4:44 PM
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Ugh...(dev)? What is the "dev"?
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Re: Is the Dogfights: Game dissapointing??
Oct 30, 2007 7:33 AM
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> I really hate to have to post this honest because I
> understand how much was put into this game. But I
> cant' help but be overwhelmed with complete
> dissapointment. I mean I know it's free, but coming
> from the people who make the brilliant show
> Dogfigthts I couldn't believe it.
>
> *I have to get this off my mind, and honestly I
> really thought you guys would make something to
> compare with "Aces High 2" or maybe "IL-2 Sturmovik"
> IF YOU GUYS ARE NOT SERIOUS ABOUT THIS ""GAME"" THING
> THEN....WELL..I'M DISSAPOINTED, BUT IF YOU'RE JUST
> WAITING FOR MORE IDEAS OR IN THE THOUGHT PROCESS FOR
> A NEW GAME THE FORGET EVERYTHING I SAID AND DO YOU
> DOGFIGHTS THING =D RIGHT ON!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh gawd, yes! "Dogfights: The Game" is very poor! Also, I can't believe THC hired Kuma games to produce this piece of junky code. If they did a search they would have seen that Kuma makes rather poor/low quality computer games. Perhaps THC didn't want to spend additional funding to base DTG on a better engine, such as but not limited to, Aces High, European Air War, IL-2 series, etc.
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Edited by member6 at 10/30/2007 7:33 AM
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