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The bottom line in the recent elections
Nov 4, 2009 10:47 PM
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The Republicans lost another seat in the House of Representatives.
They lost their seat in the heavily conservative 23rd Congressional district in upstate New York.
This further strengthens the Democratic Party majority in Congress.
The Democrats also won a seat in California, but they already held that district so it was not a net gain.
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Re: The bottom line in the recent elections
Nov 4, 2009 10:56 PM
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> The Republicans lost another seat in the House of
> Representatives.
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> They lost their seat in the heavily conservative 23rd
> Congressional district in upstate New York.
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> This further strengthens the Democratic Party
> majority in Congress.
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> The Democrats also won another seat in California,
> leading to a second gain in Congress.
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The bottom line is its irrelevant. Those seats will change hands next year if you continue upon this course.
The numbers and situation in NY-23 explain the result there. There won't be any division next year, pookie.
The Blue Dogs don't care about these election. They're looking at New Jersey and Virginia and hoping to avoid the same.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it, Herbie.
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Re: The bottom line in the recent elections
Nov 5, 2009 5:52 AM
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The seat in California was a foregone conclusion. That was a heavily Leftist district.
The New York seat is a different issue. Scozzafaza (or however you spell it) did everything she could to torpedo the Republicans chances. She was openly supporting a near straight Democrat platform. This divided the non-Democrat vote to begin with.
Then she pulled out of the race at the last moment. This meant that she got 6% of the vote via absentee balloting anyway. That alone would have changed the outcome had she withdrawn before absentee balloting began.
Since there was no Republican still on the ballot the voting was more split. Even with that the Democrat barely squeeked out a win.
I'd say 2012 is looking pretty bleak for the Democrats unless they make a massive course change in policy and rhetoric.
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Re: The bottom line in the recent elections
Nov 5, 2009 4:36 PM
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> The seat in California was a foregone conclusion.
> That was a heavily Leftist district.
As I pointed out, it was simply a maintenance election for the dems there.
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> The New York seat is a different issue. Scozzafaza
> (or however you spell it) did everything she could to
> torpedo the Republicans chances. She was openly
> supporting a near straight Democrat platform. This
> divided the non-Democrat vote to begin with.
> Then she pulled out of the race at the last moment.
> This meant that she got 6% of the vote via absentee
> e balloting anyway. That alone would have changed
> the outcome had she withdrawn before absentee
> balloting began.
> Since there was no Republican still on the ballot the
> voting was more split. Even with that the Democrat
> barely squeeked out a win.
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> I'd say 2012 is looking pretty bleak for the
> Democrats unless they make a massive course change in
> policy and rhetoric.
You're ignoring the fact that Scozzafaza was the choice of 11 Republican county leaders in that district. Then the far right wingers across the nation kicked into gear, and insisted on slamming her selection and backing a conservative who had actually bolted the party to start his own campaign.
The Republicans in upper New York state did a very good imitation of a meltdown, if not a real meltdown.
It does not bode well for Republican party unity going forward. There is and will be a pitched battle within the party between the extreme right and the moderates. If the extreme right wins, then you can pretty much count on the Dems keeping the power in DC.
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Re: The bottom line in the recent elections
Nov 5, 2009 4:41 PM
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Dream on Booboo, dream on.
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Re: The bottom line in the recent elections
Nov 5, 2009 4:50 PM
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Re: The bottom line in the recent elections
Nov 6, 2009 1:50 AM
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We needed thsoe two votes too. Good deal.
A Democrat won in that district for the first time since what, 1852? Did you see the wally the Conservatives ran???? If they had stayed with the lady, they'd have another seat in Congress. They can't beat us, we have to beat ourselves. Deeds ran the most woeful campaign I have ever seen. And Corzine just made one blunder after the other. And almost won anyway. He should have stayed in the Senate. He was not governor material. Christy is a blimp and a simp and a one term wonder.
McDonnell is the really interesting candidate. A blow-dried, sweet talking extremist who puts smart people to sleep. HE is dangerous. Luckily he's dim. He'll scr*ew everything up, I promise you.
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Re: The bottom line in the recent elections
Nov 6, 2009 2:10 AM
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The republicans lost the NY seat because they ran 2 candidates on the ballot- more peopel voted for Republicans than the democrat. That means next year they will probably get the seat back.
One seat for a year has zero bearing at all.
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Re: The bottom line in the recent elections
Nov 6, 2009 4:48 PM
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"Christy is a blimp and a simp and a one term wonder"
LOL...
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Re: The bottom line in the recent elections
Nov 6, 2009 4:53 PM
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> The Republicans lost another seat in the House of
> Representatives.
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> They lost their seat in the heavily conservative 23rd
> Congressional district in upstate New York.
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> This further strengthens the Democratic Party
> majority in Congress.
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> The Democrats also won a seat in California, but they
> already held that district so it was not a net gain.
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Hey PBT - You're pretty good at "damage control."
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Re: The bottom line in the recent elections
Nov 6, 2009 5:05 PM
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Anyone that fixates on the NY-23 Election and ignores the results elsewhere is totally delusional!
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Re: The bottom line in the recent elections
Nov 6, 2009 5:06 PM
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Hey, don't do a thing to make them think differently.
"Those whom the Gods would destroy, they first strike blind"
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Re: The bottom line in the recent elections
Nov 6, 2009 5:11 PM
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> The republicans lost the NY seat because they ran 2
> candidates on the ballot- more peopel voted for
> Republicans than the democrat. That means next year
> they will probably get the seat back.
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> One seat for a year has zero bearing at all.
Another incompetent analysis that again flubs the basic facts. The Republicans already had an easy seat there. They merely had to stick with the lady. By demanding far right positions, they doomed their party when that vote could be critical. And gave the Democrat a year of name recognition and fund raising that will help him mightily in the next race. Bottom line is, Dems are on the rise there. In a few more years it wil be fully competitive. Elect the lady and she keeps it for decades.
It was a suicidal GOP disaster. And Palin failed.
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Re: The bottom line in the recent elections
Nov 6, 2009 5:17 PM
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Two blue states turned red and elected republicans. It was a landslide in Virginia. Republican McDonald ran against democrat Deeds a couple of years ago and the election was a squeaker with McDonald barely winning the state attorney general seat. This time it was a 20 point landslide. What's the difference between a couple of years ago and now? Barry Obama. New Jersey went republican. The upstate NY race was actually three way. Although Scozzo dropped out of the race she was still on the ballot and received enough votes to put Hoffman over the top. Hoffman scared the hell out of the Rockefeller republicans in NY and you can bet there will be some changes in the way they nominate their candidates. That's a better thing than electing a phony republican who votes with democrats.
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Re: The bottom line in the recent elections
Nov 6, 2009 5:42 PM
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The difference was that Deeds ran the worst campaign in Virgina history and Dems stayed home. Turnout was utterly tiny. The real reason he lost was the other guy looks better and sounds better.
Don't kid yourself, these were local elections. The only national election, the GOP lost.
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