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President Obama's amateur hour foreign policy

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Last Post Oct 20, 2009 2:26 PM by: dustdevil28
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Re: President Obama's amateur hour foreign policy

Jul 6, 2009 10:40 AM
> Honduras has had 12 constitutions in its history.

OK?

> The current constitution was approved in 1982 and has
> been amended about 22 times - about once a year -
> since then.

Alright.

> Why then couldn't it be amended again?

Because the changes are the will of congress not the Presidency.

> And what is so sacrosanct about such a variable,
> temporary document?

because you have to treat this like it is the definitive structure of government. If you can never have a concrete document then you can never have a stab;le country.
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Re: President Obama's amateur hour foreign policy

Jul 6, 2009 10:45 AM
Yes, it make no sense for the US to want Central/South America to have constitutional governments, and then tell these same countries they should allow their president to violate it.

Seems like hypocrisy to me.......


It really doesn't matter how many "times" their constitution has been amended, so long as it has been done through established, legal methods.

Their president was attempting to amend it illegally, and we are fools to support him in his efforts.

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Re: President Obama's amateur hour foreign policy

Aug 1, 2009 6:43 PM
bump for Sci

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Re: President Obama's amateur hour foreign policy

Aug 1, 2009 6:48 PM
here he showed an amazing level of ignorance conserning foreign policy.

Heck, as I pointed out I literally gave him a map from which to contruct his arguements and he still couldn't come up with anything.

The left on this board has displayed their ineptitude in amazing fashion in this thread.


?

I don't have the foggiest idea what you are talking about, but again, you display the insulting manner that you complain about. See if you can find me saying anything like that.

This format is difficult because oftentimes I go away and miss things. If you could, please restate comments succiently, and explain what you are trying to say.
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Re: President Obama's amateur hour foreign policy

Aug 1, 2009 6:53 PM
I don't have the foggiest idea what you are talking about, but again, you display the insulting manner that you complain about. See if you can find me saying anything like that.

It's all in the thread. Try doing some reading bud.

As for the insults, as I stated, that arguements were childish and inept. If it was otherwise I wouldn't have said that.

This format is difficult because oftentimes I go away and miss things. If you could, please restate comments succiently, and explain what you are trying to say.

Wow, you're really to lazy to read your own posts in this very thread? Man, that doesn't prove my point at all about the left on this board does it?

-DD

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Re: President Obama's amateur hour foreign policy

Aug 1, 2009 7:00 PM
DD - I read my posts. They were logical and coherent. I don't even understand how you could disagree with them. I don't even understand what you are disagreeing with! WTF does "I even gave him a map" mean?

Listen - I'm not lazy. If I have a point, I make it. I don't say "go off and read something somewhere and you'll see my point."
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Re: President Obama's amateur hour foreign policy

Aug 1, 2009 7:25 PM
1. It's plenty of time! In fact he should have had a plan LONG BEFORE HE MADE THAT PROMISE!

2. He fell all over himself teling Europe how arrogant we are! DON'T EVEN TRY DENYING IT!

3. If you knew anything about the MIDDLE EAST and it's customs you would know that a kiss on both cheeks IS A GREETING BETWEEN FRIENDS AND EQUALS! What Obama did is an act of Fealty toward a superior!

Further HAD YOU WATCHED THE bow video you would actually see that he bowed deeply at the waist! THERE WAS NOTHING SLIGHT ABOUIT IT!

By the way what Michelle did is a violation of court protocol in England!

4. It is clear to everyone but BLIND OBAMITES!

5. Diferent laws PB!
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Re: President Obama's amateur hour foreign policy

Aug 1, 2009 8:02 PM
> Lets recap our oh so great President's current
> foreign policy highlights.
>
> First he announces the closing of GITMO within a year
> without a clear plan on what to do with the
> detainees. As of this writing there still is no clear
> plan on what to do with them and we are less than 6
> months away from the planned closing. A fabulous
> start.
>
> Second, he goes to Europe and begs forgiveness for
> America being an arrogant nation. The European
> nations thank him for his apologies by refusing to
> take any GITMO detainees and making no new
> contributions to the war in Afghanistan.
>
> Third he bows while meeting the Saudi King
>
> Forth, he fails to drive a wedge in Iran's ruling
> class and to create doubt across the world on the
> legitimacy of the Iranian government. What did he
> fail to do? Oh, just to say he disapproved of the
> regime crack down that's all.
>
> fifth, he follows up the Iran whiff by supporting the
> wannabe dictator of Honduras after he is ousted. The
> dictator was ousted with the unanimous approval of
> the Honduran congress after President Zelaya openly
> made it his intention to violate the constitution and
> to make and illegal seizure of power. The ousting was
> bloodless, with an interim President taking the helm
> until the next round of elections can be held in
> November.
>
> Somehow President not so bright has objected to these
> moves despite the very democratic motivations behind
> them.
>
> Folks, as I list these Obama has been President for
> only six months. I'm tired of amateur hour, we need
> to call for protests nationwide to let this man know
> that we are not going to sit back and accept this
> garbage anymore. 2010 is not close enough, fix it now
> or there will be a way found to impeach him and get
> him of the white house.
>
> -DD
>
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> A wise and frugal government, which shall leave
> men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry
> and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of
> labor and bread it has earned - this is the sum of
> good government

> -Thomas Jefferson

Are you aware what secret society Mr. Obama is from? COFR. counsel on foreign relations. You know Bush was skull and bones right? Obama doesn't make these decisions on his own by no means. These people want what they want and that's the end of it. They put him in office so on this issue if you want to blame Obama don't because I'm sure he's just their pawn.

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Re: President Obama's amateur hour foreign policy

Aug 1, 2009 8:14 PM
Did you see Bill Maher have the president of COFR on? BIll had no idea who he even was. Do you know who said Iraq was the wrong war and Afghanistan was the right war? LONG BEFORE OBAMA CAME OUT WITH IT? As a matter of fact he was on a book tour with it. He couldn't SING OBAMAS PRAISES LOUD ENOUGH EITHER. They put him in office and they either outright control him on that or highly influence his decisions trust me. He is not the master mind behind his foreign relations policies.


Link to the real minds behind Obamas foriegn relations here.


http://books.simonandschuster.com/War-of-Necessity-War-of-Choice/Richard-N-Haass/9781416549024

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Re: President Obama's amateur hour foreign policy

Aug 1, 2009 8:16 PM
Want to know what Obama does and says before he says and does it on Foriegn relations? Watch this man.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_N._Haass

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Re: President Obama's amateur hour foreign policy

Aug 19, 2009 2:21 PM
He got the Egyptian pres to say he is doing a good job and Richardson is talking to the N. Koreans to settle peace. IT is sounds more like beginner's luck to me.
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Re: President Obama's amateur hour foreign policy

Aug 19, 2009 2:30 PM
The egyption press? How much of a role do they have in dealing with extremists? Also, while I would wish Richardson well in his discussion with DPRK officials it will all be for naught IMO. This is not a country interested in integrating and beginning discussion with the international community. They are only interested in assuring self survival on their ruling elite and so they will continue to be a militarized society that will be peaceful so long as the world bribes them to make gestures and when they are caught still engaging in military testing such as nuclear tests they will simply reneg, test another bomb and wait for the world to scramble toward the next round of negotiations.

It's just more of the same with it comes ot N. Korea.

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Re: President Obama's amateur hour foreign policy

Oct 20, 2009 2:26 PM
This is the man who they say deserves a nobel award.....

And libs will no doubt again ask why conservatives make fun of them for this demi-god status they've given zero.

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