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Pelosi Reverses House Fairness Rules
Jan 5, 2009 8:56 AM
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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi plans to re-write House rules today to ensure that the Republican minority is unable to have any influence on legislation. Pelosi?s proposals are so draconian, and will so polarize the Capitol, that any thought President-elect Obama has of bipartisan cooperation will be rendered impossible before he even takes office.
Pelosi?s rule changes -- which may be voted on today -- will reverse the fairness rules that were written around Newt Gingrich?s ?Contract with America.?
In reaction, the House Republican leadership is sending a letter today to Pelosi to object to changes to House Rules this week that would bar Republicans from offering alternative bills, amendments to Democrat bills or even the guarantee of open debate accessible by motions to recommit for any piece of legislation during the entire 111th Congress. These procedural abuses, as outlined in the below letter obtained by HUMAN EVENTS, would also include the repeal of six-year limit for committee chairmen and other House Rules reform measures enacted in 1995 as part of the Contract with America.
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=30143
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Re: Pelosi Reverses House Fairness Rules
Jan 5, 2009 9:58 AM
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I warned of this is type of Rule changes in an earlier thread. Most ignored or laughed at the warning. Look for similar Rule changes in the Senate. When that happens than all those who scoffed at my warning need to step forward and defend the changes.
We are entering dangerous territory here. The same people who complained about Bush being a dictator are strangely quiet over this blatant grab for total power in Congress. They are all hypocrites because if a Republican Controlled Congress had done the very same thing they would of all, in unison, been screaming bloody murder.
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Re: Pelosi Reverses House Fairness Rules
Jan 5, 2009 10:55 AM
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Remember when the Dems DEMANDED a power sharing agreement when the GOP held a one seat majority in the Senate. They got it, but when THEY held the Senate by one seat they refused to do the same. This is how they do business. I knew when they took power they'd do their LEVEL BEST to make sure that the GOP would not be able to influence their legislative initiatives in ANY way. It's about MAXIMIZING power, and making sure that the GOP cannot interfere with what they want to do.
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Re: Pelosi Reverses House Fairness Rules
Jan 5, 2009 11:05 AM
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how cute
an article from Ann Coulter's wacky website
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Re: Pelosi Reverses House Fairness Rules
Jan 5, 2009 11:23 AM
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As usual, the Right misrepresents the facts.
The proposed rules reform does NOT "ensure that the Republican minority is unable to have any infuence on legislation".
Here's the other side of the story:
Democratic aides said the proposed change was not intended to protect tax increases from attack, but rather to prevent the GOP from tying up bills with motions that do not state their true intent ? to kill popular legislation. In any case, they said Republicans would retain the right to offer two other motions to recommit ? either without instructions for policy changes, or with instructions to make changes forthwith, or immediately, as the bill stays on the floor and moves to passage with revisions.
http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?docid=news-000003002254
I also seem to recall that during the Republican controlled Congress of 2000-2006, Democrats were routinely squeezed out of the legislative process by various underhanded methods used by the Republican majority, which included suddenly changing the location of key hearing meetings without informing the Democrats.
What goes around, comes around.
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Re: Pelosi Reverses House Fairness Rules
Jan 5, 2009 11:43 AM
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> As usual, the Right misrepresents the facts.
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> I also seem to recall that during the Republican
> controlled Congress of 2000-2006, Democrats were
> routinely squeezed out of the legislative process by
> various underhanded methods used by the Republican
> majority, which included suddenly changing the
> location of key hearing meetings without informing
> the Democrats.
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> What goes around, comes around.
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Frankly I think Pelosi is still being kinda soft.
She should reinstate the Tom Delay rules that included a provision that no member of Congress can ask for information from government agencies without the written consent of the chairman of the committee.
As you said, payback.
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Re: Pelosi Reverses House Fairness Rules
Jan 5, 2009 11:59 AM
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> I also seem to recall that during the Republican
> controlled Congress of 2000-2006, Democrats were
> routinely squeezed out of the legislative process by
> various underhanded methods used by the Republican
> majority, which included suddenly changing the
> location of key hearing meetings without informing
> the Democrats.
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> What goes around, comes around.
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So while the left decried the tactis of Republicans during time when Republicans held a majority, and deemed that to be grossly unfair, you now say "all's fair in love and war"?
If the left felt it to be wrong then, why are you now supporting the same tactics you objected to then?
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Re: Pelosi Reverses House Fairness Rules
Jan 5, 2009 3:52 PM
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The Left would have an argument IF they decided to apply the SAME rules that they had to work under during the Republican Controlled Congress but no, they want to push it even further and lock out the minority even more than they were.
If the Rules were so restrictive that the Dem's could not do anything during the Republican controlled Congress than one would think that they would apply the same rules when they have control. Apparently the Dem's were blowing smoke in decrying the Rules because they knew they were able do do somethings. What they want now is to even further restrict the Republicans than they were......
What is next? Burning down the Capitol Building and blaming it on Conservatives?
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Re: Pelosi Reverses House Fairness Rules
Jan 5, 2009 4:36 PM
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More proof (as if any were needed) Pelosi and the House Democrat leadership are facist morons. All I say is: Be careful what you wish for. You just may get it!
In this case, if Pelosi and the Democrats crash and burn the economy, foreign policy, etc., they are dooming themselves in the mid-term elections. They will have no means to point fingers at anyone but themselves for failure. That alone should give them pause to enacting rules making them nearly omnipotent.
If they do I'd recommend exactly what Pelosi recommends: The Republicans don't bother to show up at all. That would make for a public relations disaster on its own.
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