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Anyone Notice that These "Vets" Never Post on the Military Boards?
Nov 4, 2009 11:42 AM
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I mean they obviously think that they can decide who is a veteran and they center themselves around their supposed infinite knowledge of all aspects of the military.
Why are they wasting their time over here?
I'll tell you why, because they have had their heads handed to them by the posters over there. Most of them: OldSailior, Marine1, Marineclpl, Tankcommander, Pops and especially Scipio, who has been smacked down more times than I can remember. Some of them have NEVER posted there at all. Hmmm. I wonder why?
A simple search using their names over their shows why they spend all of their time, acting like elitists over here.
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Re: Anyone Notice that These "Vets" Never Post on the Military Boards?
Nov 4, 2009 11:54 AM
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> I mean they obviously think that they can decide who
> is a veteran and they center themselves around their
> supposed infinite knowledge of all aspects of the
> military.
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> Why are they wasting their time over here?
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> I'll tell you why, because they have had their heads
> handed to them by the posters over there. Most of
> them: OldSailior, Marine1, Marineclpl,
> Tankcommander, Pops and especially Scipio, who has
> been smacked down more times than I can remember.
> Some of them have NEVER posted there at all. Hmmm.
> . I wonder why?
>
> A simple search using their names over their shows
> why they spend all of their time, acting like
> elitists over here.
And I challenge EVERYONE to do that simple search and see just who is the one who has been smacked down....
MPA is about as phoney as they come. He things that if he posts a comment like about no one will really check it out and instead just believe what he is saying....So any one who thinks MPA is telling the truth here I encourage to do his little search. After you do I expect you to return and tells us if MPA is truthful or not. I already know the answer to that question...
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Re: Anyone Notice that These "Vets" Never Post on the Military Boards?
Nov 4, 2009 12:01 PM
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> I mean they obviously think that they can decide who
> is a veteran and they center themselves around their
> supposed infinite knowledge of all aspects of the
> military.
Want to tell us who said they are always right about imposters, and who claImed "infinIte knowledge" of all aspects of the military?
I usually can tell an imposter from my branch and era, especially if they claim to have been where I have.
I can also tell based on my general knowledge, which is greater than most people's, but I never saId it was 'infinite', and if you say that I DID, you are wrong.
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> Why are they wasting their time over here?
Maybe because "they" want to, and it's their perogative, not yours.
I have posted on the Operation Iraqi Freedom Board (did that for at least a year before I came over here), the Cold War Board, the Vietnam War Board, the Civil War Board, and the World War II Board.
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> I'll tell you why, because they have had their heads
> handed to them by the posters over there. Most of
> them: OldSailior, Marine1, Marineclpl,
> Tankcommander, Pops and especially Scipio, who has
> been smacked down more times than I can remember.
> Some of them have NEVER posted there at all. Hmmm.
> . I wonder why?
Keep wondering.
I was here years before you were.
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> A simple search using their names over their shows
> why they spend all of their time, acting like
> elitists over here.
I'm no elitist.
But I don't have to put up with lies and disrespect, either.
And I won't.
I don't give a damn what ANYBODY says.
I won't.
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Re: Anyone Notice that These "Vets" Never Post on the Military Boards?
Nov 4, 2009 12:06 PM
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> I mean they obviously think that they can decide who
> is a veteran and they center themselves around their
> supposed infinite knowledge of all aspects of the
> military.
>
> Why are they wasting their time over here?
>
> I'll tell you why, because they have had their heads
> handed to them by the posters over there. Most of
> them: OldSailior, Marine1, Marineclpl,
> Tankcommander, Pops and especially Scipio, who has
> been smacked down more times than I can remember.
> Some of them have NEVER posted there at all. Hmmm.
> . I wonder why?
>
> A simple search using their names over their shows
> why they spend all of their time, acting like
> elitists over here.
I started out here on the WWII Board mental midget. The same exact things were posted over and over such as which was the best tank and that is when I branched out. I posted on the OIF Board as well but that was taken over by loons. I thus branched out to current events.
Only in your dreams did you ever smack down anyone least of all me.
When I was on the WWII Boards I held my own with NO ONE being able to disprove anything I posted.
I will agree with one thing, the average poster there is considerably smarter than the average poster here. Naturlaly though that board had its own frauds and wackos such a Cphillips, Schumacher and Rusky I'm sure there are new ones now and was frequently invaded by bigots like confucious.
Let's just look at one post from the WWII boards where you claim I would be beat down:
Cphillips, a poster who is a communist sympathizer and claims to be an American who moved long ago to Italy, claimed during WWII a million Italians died in the USSR. I said that no where near a million Italians died in the entire war and no where near that many were in the USSR even let alone died there. He then claimed that "hundreds of thousands died in the USSR, surely the overwhelming majority of all Italian dead were suffered in the USSR and at least 600,000 casualties total were suffered there by Italy."
My response was:
"Where is your source for the claim that the overwhelming majority died in the USSR. No Italian source I have ever read and this includes all known studies done to tabulate Italian casualties has ever listed more than 90,000 dead/missing in the USSR. It is doubtful that there were 10,000 dead/missing until the time the CSIR became the 8th Army. 8th Army dead are listed as 84,830 killed/mia and 28,400 wounded/frostbite. Most sources state that these figures include the losses from when it was known as the 35th Corps (the CSIR). Even if that is wrong there were definitely no more than 10,000 killed/mia (and most likely half that)in the 35th Corps thus at most around 95,000 total in the USSR. This is no where near half of Italian dead/missing in the war."
His rebuttal was:
"The following article gives the number of Italian soldiers killed in Russia as 229 000. I do no know what the number of captured, missing, or injured would be.
http://www.cronologia.it/mondo35z.htm
As for the remainder of your remarks--which are really absurd!--I chalk them up to being what the Italians call maleducato, a word that says it all."
He assumed I can't read Italian- the link is to an Italian Website.
Here was my response:
"Below is what your website says
Di 229.000 uomini inviati in Russia, 29.690 furono rimpatriati perch feriti o congelati. Dei rimanenti, i superstiti furono solo 114.485. Mancarono all'appello 84.830 uomini di cui 10.030 furono restituiti dall'Urss. Il totale delle perdite ammont a 74.800 uomini."
Get an Italian to read the above from your website to you because your Italian is worthless.
The first sentence says 229,000 Italians were sent to Russia not 229,00 died there.
The second sentence says 29,690 were wounded or sick.
The third sentence says the remaining survivors were only 114,485 (the author needs a math lesson 229,000 - 84,839 -29,690 = 114,471 not 114,485) meaning these were not casualties.
The next sentence says that 84,839 were unaccounted for (meaning dead or MIA) of which 10,030 POWs were repatriated after the war.
The last sentence says the total losses were 74,800 men.
Where did this total loss figure of 74,800 come from? 84,839 total were killed or missing but 10,030 POWs returned thus the actual dead amounted to 74,809. This is the dead and missing presumed dead, for all they know some men remained in captivity in the USSR.
Notice how these figures mirror the ones I cited.
Nothing I said was absurd but eveyrthing you have said is absurd even according to your own source.
Which of us is maleducato again?"
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i have over 10,000 of my posts on the WWII Board go search and find where I was smacked down. And I HAVE seen Warrior, Pops, tank and 101 on those boards in the WWII, Vietnam and OIF sections. You are as always laughable.
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Re: Anyone Notice that These "Vets" Never Post on the Military Boards?
Nov 4, 2009 12:06 PM
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I post over there all the time, MPA.
And I don't see these "smack downs" you are referring to.
I only see people like you running away from questions like "Should the Palestinians spend their money on rebuilding their military, or instead spend it on rebuilding roads, schools and industry."
I know that was a tough question. And if you answered it, it would have DESTROYED your own arguments.
Instead of bashing others on their debate skills, perhaps you could actually quit running away from questions when you are LOSING debates yourself.
Your hypocrisy is quite blatant.
"Denial is a great place. I've heard the summers are nice there."
PS:
I expect this post to get deleted by MPA, just like the last several when I called him out on this same issue.
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Re: Anyone Notice that These "Vets" Never Post on the Military Boards?
Nov 4, 2009 12:15 PM
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MPA, It never heards to dream. You should do it every day.
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Re: Anyone Notice that These "Vets" Never Post on the Military Boards?
Nov 4, 2009 2:40 PM
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Here is an example of what in MPA's fantasies is him smacking someone down:
Scipio:
"Your claim that you were allowed into the Advanced Course of ROTC without signing a military commitment contract and incurring a military service obligation is impossible. It is mandatory to sign a military service commitment contract in order to be admitted into the Advanced Couse"
MPA:
MPA:
"I didn't have to join ROTC the first two years since it was basic courses and I didn't really understand the program at that point, thus I was allowed to take ROTC during my last two years. Thirdly, I didn't accept scholarship money, therefore I didn't have to incur an obligation. As usual, you make knee jerk assumptions about things you know little about:
http://www.goarmy.com/rotc/your_commitment.jsp
ROTC Committments:
Army ROTC students who receive an Army ROTC scholarship or enter the Army ROTC Advanced Course must agree to complete a period of service with the Army.
See how it says only scholarship recipients incur an obligation"
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Now in MPA's bizarro world he won that debate but in reality he posted evidence that proved him wrong. He posted a source that clearly stated "or enter the Army ROTC Advanced Course must agree to complete a period of service with the Army" yet he pretended it said only scholarship recipients.
The guy has nothing upstairs at all.
In the meantime he wants us to believe he was in the military and his military claims were as ludicrous as this ROTC claim.
I'll give you another example of his bizarro world. You know how in the above quote he said he didn't have to take the Basic Course and just took the last two years, well he posted a University transcript belonging to someone who took the Basic Course and Advanced Course and then claimed this transcript which differed from his claim proved he attended ROTC. Yes he is so inept he thought posting a transcript that was different than the claims he made helped him. He also posted a graduate level transcript purporting to reflect an MPA degree was awarded in 2003. The genius posted this to back up his assertion he earned a MPA in 2000.
Like I said nothing going on upstairs...
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Re: Anyone Notice that These "Vets" Never Post on the Military Boards?
Nov 4, 2009 2:43 PM
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If you want to check, you'll see I haven't posted anywhere but here in months. There is only one other board I have posted on this year and that is the Middle East Board. Haven't been on that in months. I don't go posting all over.
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Beam me up Scottie, no intelligent life down here.
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Re: Anyone Notice that These "Vets" Never Post on the Military Boards?
Nov 4, 2009 3:00 PM
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First of all, a person's own history determines whether or not they are Vets.
Personally, I don't regularly post on the VN board any more because after 40 years, I'm pretty well tired of talking about it.
The one exception I make is when some asshat who knows nothing more about it than something their history prof told them or something they read in a revisionist PC textbook starts running off at the keyboard as if they were experts.
The real question is, why are YOU wasting your time on this subject?
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ONE and DONE!
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Re: Anyone Notice that These "Vets" Never Post on the Military Boards?
Nov 4, 2009 3:12 PM
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>I have posted on the Operation Iraqi Freedom Board (did that for at least a year before I came over here), the Cold War Board, the Vietnam War Board, the Civil War Board, and the World War II Board.
War of 1812, Napoleanic Wars, Civil War, WWII and Cold War.
I do not post often unless I have something I think is worth adding though I read a lot and learn a lot.
MPA should try that some time.
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Re: Anyone Notice that These "Vets" Never Post on the Military Boards?
Nov 4, 2009 3:26 PM
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>First of all, a person's own history determines whether or not they are Vets.
A thought occurs. My better half, Mrs Sailor served in the USN and was honorably discharged as a Petty Officer 3rd Class (E-4 / Cpl equivalent for MPA's benefit.)
I suspect she is more of a Veteran than he.
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Re: Anyone Notice that These "Vets" Never Post on the Military Boards?
Nov 4, 2009 3:28 PM
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Are you DEMANDING WE POST ON MILITARY BOARDS, MPA? Personally speaking MPA, there is a simple reason: I CHOOSE not to post on the military boards.
It's called "freedom."
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The above post may or may not have partisan-based comments. If you don't like them, too bad. This is America. I have a RIGHT to my opinion and to express it. Anyway, you have a nice day, sunshine.
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Re: Anyone Notice that These "Vets" Never Post on the Military Boards?
Nov 4, 2009 3:35 PM
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"I suspect she is more of a Veteran than he. "
I would agree.
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Re: Anyone Notice that These "Vets" Never Post on the Military Boards?
Nov 4, 2009 3:56 PM
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> >First of all, a person's own history determines
> whether or not they are Vets.
>
> A thought occurs. My better half, Mrs Sailor served
> in the USN and was honorably discharged as a Petty
> Officer 3rd Class (E-4 / Cpl equivalent for MPA's
> benefit.)
>
> I suspect she is more of a Veteran than he.
>
He made up his military claims so that would be a slam dunk. Your word she served is good enough to trump all his BS.
The hilarious thing is that he has countless times stated he is the only proven vet here and gone on and on about it and yet no one else except him should discuss it.
Warrior got it right, he has no problem with fake vets because he is one of them.
He served in the 2nd ACR battalion you know. Yes he supposedly served in a made up unit how fitting!
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Re: Anyone Notice that These "Vets" Never Post on the Military Boards?
Nov 4, 2009 4:06 PM
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> > >First of all, a person's own history
> determines
> > whether or not they are Vets.
> >
> > A thought occurs. My better half, Mrs Sailor
> served
> > in the USN and was honorably discharged as a
> Petty
> > Officer 3rd Class (E-4 / Cpl equivalent for
> MPA's
> > benefit.)
> >
> > I suspect she is more of a Veteran than he.
> >
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> He made up his military claims so that would be a
> slam dunk. Your word she served is good enough to
> trump all his BS.
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> The hilarious thing is that he has countless times
> stated he is the only proven vet here and gone on and
> on about it and yet no one else except him should
> discuss it.
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> Warrior got it right, he has no problem with fake
> vets because he is one of them.
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> He served in the 2nd ACR battalion you know. Yes he
> supposedly served in a made up unit how fitting!
LOL! I care about what you think about me, as much as you care about ever doing anything but claiming you ever went to college.
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