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900 billion for health care is fine, but 40 billion for troops is too...
Oct 30, 2009 1:33 PM
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.... much?
The liberal thought process or lack thereof.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/10/30/afghanistan.costs/index.html
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Re: 900 billion for health care is fine, but 40 billion for troops is too...
Oct 30, 2009 4:32 PM
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The $900 billion if passed becomes the iron f!st the Democrats would have our b@lls in DD. "Republicans will cut off your healthcare" or "Republicans will kill Granny and Gramps" just like they have been using SSI for 60 years as a threat. If you are involved in something the left wing does not approve of, your demographic could be denied coverage.
$40 billion for the troops does not ensure Democrat votes.
It is just that simple.
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Re: 900 billion for health care is fine, but 40 billion for troops is too...
Oct 30, 2009 4:36 PM
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Well ask any conservative who does not want to pay any taxes to support the troops...
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Re: 900 billion for health care is fine, but 40 billion for troops is too...
Oct 31, 2009 3:33 PM
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I didn't see anything in the article poo pooing the cost.
It's fine with me though. It's been needed for years. My best guess at this point is 25-30k additional this year.
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Re: 900 billion for health care is fine, but 40 billion for troops is too...
Oct 31, 2009 3:48 PM
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Fred,
You're right that it was not overtly hostile about the cost, but it seems interesting to me that there would be such an article which I can see libs citing as such a horrible effect of war while at the same time calling for such massive spending on healthcare.
A little bit of a reach on my part, but I'd just rather address it now than wait for predictable liberals to do what I already know they will do.
-DD
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Re: 900 billion for health care is fine, but 40 billion for troops is too...
Oct 31, 2009 4:03 PM
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"A little bit of a reach on my part,"
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssssss.
"but I'd just rather address it now than wait for predictable liberals to do what I already know they will do."
Do you tip your hand when your playing cards too? It's just Harry and George after all.
Off topic, this is from last weekend;
http://boards.history.com/topic/Current-Events/Dustdevil/520076862
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Re: 900 billion for health care is fine, but 40 billion for troops is too...
Oct 31, 2009 4:30 PM
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Fred,
Call if boredom. I'm living in a new place and it'll take a while for me to be as settled here as I was in DC so I jumped the gun.
Oh, and thanks for the link. That was a good game last week. The Vikings went to the red zone twice and it only resulted in 14 points the other way, go figure.
Here's hopin the Packers send the Vikes to their bye with two straight loses after this week. Either way should be another good game.
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Re: 900 billion for health care is fine, but 40 billion for troops is too...
Oct 31, 2009 4:55 PM
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Well boredom gets the better of me too. I cede that point. 
We will pull out of Afghanistan before Baracko's term is up. Now I'm the one jumping the gun. Or am I?
Do we continue to support a corrupt regime?
Or do we do something similar to Iraq? IE provide security for a fledgling government to stand on their own and then leave (One more year, if I'm wrong I'm wrong).
Three administrations in a row and Al-Queda will still be at large.
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Re: 900 billion for health care is fine, but 40 billion for troops is too...
Oct 31, 2009 5:01 PM
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We will pull out of Afghanistan before Baracko's term is up. Now I'm the one jumping the gun. Or am I?
If we do I'll go friggin nuts with anger and since I doubt I'm the only one I'll put my money that Barack the politician will not go that far.
Do we continue to support a corrupt regime?
Are we there more for them or to continue to hunt after AQ and Taleban terrorists? Is it better for Karzai to rule or the Taleban? What happens with nuclear armed Pakistan's war with the militants if we pull out?
Also at the end of the day there really isn't such a thing as a uncorrupt Afghan and you should be suspect of any one of them that doesn't try to cheat you a little bit. It's part of their culture and a part of it that will take some time to get rid of.
Or do we do something similar to Iraq? IE provide security for a fledgling government to stand on their own and then leave.
It's not just Afghanistan, it's also Pakistan. Once both of those countries are squared away AND Osama and Zawahiri are 6 feet under THAN we can talk about pulling out.
Three administrations in a row and Al-Queda will still be at large.
And they will be stronger if we leave IMO.
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Oct 31, 2009 5:44 PM
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"A little bit of a reach on my part, but I'd just rather address it now than wait for predictable liberals to do what I already know they will do. "
Predictable? Yes the right wing on this board are a model of carefully considered and rational thought.
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Re: 900 billion for health care is fine, but 40 billion for troops is too...
Nov 1, 2009 11:01 AM
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Re: 900 billion for health care is fine, but 40 billion for troops is too...
Nov 1, 2009 11:31 AM
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2007? Hmm, so you decided the best way to counter my Oct. 2009 article was with one two years old? Heck it already has a line we know to be unlikely to occur given what we know today.
"The CBO estimates assume that 75,000 troops will remain in both countries through 2017, including roughly 50,000 in Iraq. That is a "very speculative" projection, though it's not entirely unreasonable, said Loren Thompson, a defense analyst at the non-partisan Lexington Institute."
We don't have, and have never had 75,000 troops in Afghanistan. Currently we have around 57,000 in the country while we are scheduled to be out of iraq by the start of 2012 and to be reduced to around 50,000 troops there by the end of 2010.
Next!!!
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Re: 900 billion for health care is fine, but 40 billion for troops is too...
Nov 1, 2009 11:35 AM
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> .... much?
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> The liberal thought process or lack thereof.
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Right now, Obama has PROVEN HE CANNOT RUN A WAR. "Obamacare" will PROVE THE GOV'T CANNOT RUN HEALTHCARE - THEY CAN ONLY RUIN IT.
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Re: 900 billion for health care is fine, but 40 billion for troops is too...
Nov 1, 2009 11:42 AM
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It ain't about the money although the democrat lies about the "cost saving" is important. It's about control. We need government to control and supply the Military. The preamble of the Constitution even mandates it. We do not need government controlling our health care or the insurance business with a Frankenstein monster of a 2,000 page law.
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