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Volcanic Ash Mummy like Pompeii's--on Mars!
Sep 30, 2008 1:17 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5lnavfxZWo&feature=related
Mass Extinction remnants turning up in NASA rover photos on UTube, sudden, sweeping pileups of bones cast into relief by a torrent of reddish debris. "Honey I shrunk the planet."
Clueless press bereft of imagination or understanding of even the earthly scientific nearest equivalents--suggestions of "big foot". You're always better off to use the library, documentaries about science and archaeology; and to ignore tv's dingbats.
They'll go over to it and photograph the face and it'll be Dr. Zaius.
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Re: Volcanic Ash Mummy like Pompeii's--on Mars!
Sep 30, 2008 1:56 PM
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In case anyone is interested, it's that little still image that came out of the latest Mars probe. The one that shows a little rock that kinda, sorta, in a way, if you squint real hard, looks like a person at a distance.
In was in the news for a little. And forgotten as just a quirk of geology and erosion.
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Re: Volcanic Ash Mummy like Pompeii's--on Mars!
Sep 30, 2008 2:15 PM
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"Includes a spectacular collection of new photographs presented by Dr. Tom Van Flandern, former Chief Astronimer for the United States Naval Observatory"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5u-20g7Bwdw&NR=1
"See remarkable monuments, "T" shaped craters, gigantic glass tube systems, ancient forest remains and grand edifices that will leave you speechless."
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Re: Volcanic Ash Mummy like Pompeii's--on Mars!
Sep 30, 2008 2:21 PM
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attempting to officiate for their imaginary section of bleachers...(again)...CvilleDon supposes we're to believe
they've gotten close enough to have a good look at it,
or that CvilleDon has personally.
Nope. Most likely some form or organic lattice amassing an erratic petrified feature, idiosyncratic with otherwise non-composite sedimentary support fibration in the wind scoured terrain, even the fossil cast of the root of a large tree, but the torso, elbow, arm and head proportions are unavoidably suggestive.
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Re: Volcanic Ash Mummy like Pompeii's--on Mars!
Sep 30, 2008 2:25 PM
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You mean fossil forests looking like they're under about 5 ft of colored, sticky snow,i.e. sticky hot volcanic ash sediments with possible microbial life growing on top of them...maybe even methane breathing mosses, lichens...due to the still decomposing biomass underneath such a once rich ecosystem ~11,700 b.p. and still cookin' with gas.
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Re: Volcanic Ash Mummy like Pompeii's--on Mars!
Sep 30, 2008 2:29 PM
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Let me translate this for everyone.
What he's trying to say is that no one (including myself) has gotten close enough to this to know for certain.
He then ignores his own logic and suggests he knows it's a fossil with moss on it.
> attempting to officiate for their imaginary section
> of bleachers...(again)...CvilleDon supposes we're to
> believe
> they've gotten close enough to have a good look at
> it,
> or that CvilleDon has personally.
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> Nope. Most likely some form or organic
> lattice amassing an erratic petrified feature,
> idiosyncratic with otherwise non-composite
> sedimentary support fibration in the wind scoured
> terrain, even the fossil cast of the root of a large
> tree, but the torso, elbow, arm and head proportions
> are unavoidably suggestive.
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Re: Volcanic Ash Mummy like Pompeii's--on Mars!
Sep 30, 2008 2:33 PM
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OK, let me try to translate this one too. (If he's talking about the youtube video, because you never really know.)
The image is a fossil forest under five feet of snow, which is sticky, and volcanic ash sediments. With maybe microbes growing on it breathing out methane, because it's growing on top of what used to be a rich biomass. The 11,700 b.p. could be some kind of date or chemical reference, I'm not clear.
My response is, of course, how would you possibly know that from one still image?
> You mean fossil forests looking like they're under
> about 5 ft of colored, sticky snow,i.e. sticky hot
> volcanic ash sediments with possible microbial life
> growing on top of them...maybe even methane breathing
> mosses, lichens...due to the still decomposing
> biomass underneath such a once rich ecosystem
> ~11,700 b.p. and still cookin' with gas.
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Re: Volcanic Ash Mummy like Pompeii's--on Mars!
Sep 30, 2008 2:53 PM
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..there are no other structures like it in the deposit or any outcrop around it..
The probability a random shaping process would so closely proportion the human upper body (unlikely); given the mass of solid rock in any horizontally suspended structure (like an articulated limb projecting from a center mass, under time, winds and gravity (unlikely). Does not fit the more extreme wind/water erosion sculptures of the South West, like some of the balancing rocks, spires and arch structures.
So it doesn't look like what sandstone does, or anything else basically left for erosion to shape. But there are petrified pant forms in the mineralization catalog on earth, (living corals of all kinds of shapes and sizes 'horn coral', 'brain coral', 'fan coral' etc.) even fossil life forms and indeed whole galleries of Pompeii mummies--quite startling and extremely well preserved in contiguous casting, i.e. fine, completely space filling rivers of pyroclastic dust.
=====================So that much is said, now:
Instead of disagreeing blankly, use a scientific argument to find fault.
You might say there's no chance of life having been there, or humanoid or even hominid life. Then what supports such a restriction?
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Re: Volcanic Ash Mummy like Pompeii's--on Mars!
Sep 30, 2008 3:04 PM
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1. It's a single still image.
2. There's no refernce for distance, size, etc.
3. It could be the size of your thumb or twenty feet tall.
4. There's no real way to know it's consistentcy.
> ..there are no other structures like it in the
> deposit or any outcrop around it..
That you can see.
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> The probability a random shaping process would so
> closely proportion the human upper body (unlikely);
> given the mass of solid rock in any horizontally
> suspended structure (like an articulated limb
> projecting from a center mass, under time, winds and
> gravity (unlikely). Does not fit the more extreme
> wind/water erosion sculptures of the South West, like
> some of the balancing rocks, spires and arch
> structures.
Except that they exist on Earth. Ever seen the New Hampshire (or is it Vermont?) quarter? It has the famous face of a man that's actually part of a mountain. And just because a rock looks like something doesn't mean it is it.
Very good you've noticed about the Southwest. So of course you've noticed that this is Mars, whcih would have had a climate and erosion pattern that we know nothing about yet.
> So it doesn't look like what sandstone does, or
> anything else basically left for erosion to shape.
> But there are petrified pant forms in the
> e mineralization catalog on earth, (living corals of
> all kinds of shapes and sizes 'horn coral', 'brain
> coral', 'fan coral' etc.) even fossil life forms and
> indeed whole galleries of Pompeii mummies--quite
> startling and extremely well preserved in contiguous
> casting, i.e. fine, completely space filling rivers
> of pyroclastic dust.
See top comment.
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> =====================So that much is said, now:
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> Instead of disagreeing blankly, use a scientific
> argument to find fault.
Show me one, and I will.
> You might say there's no chance of life having been
> there, or humanoid or even hominid life. Then what
> supports such a restriction?
Well I haven't said that. Life is possible. Intelligent not likely. Humanoid extremely unlikely that that level of parallel evolution would exist.
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Re: Volcanic Ash Mummy like Pompeii's--on Mars!
Oct 3, 2008 4:22 AM
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Nerd must be very intelligent with the way he posts. The webiste also, its great. I cannot get enough.
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Re: Volcanic Ash Mummy like Pompeii's--on Mars!
Oct 3, 2008 5:00 AM
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But do you understand what he means?
> Nerd must be very intelligent with the way he posts.
> The webiste also, its great. I cannot get enough.
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Re: Volcanic Ash Mummy like Pompeii's--on Mars!
Oct 3, 2008 11:40 AM
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"upright skeletons", [Cataclysm!--compelling evidence of a cosmic catastrophe in 9500B.C. , D.S. Allan and J.B. Delair, Bear and Company, Sante Fe, New Mexico, 1997;p. Ch. 12--Abnormal Burials, i.e. 'upright skeletons':121-130]
Note the natural protective posture of the raised arm as if to block a blast of windblown debris from the face and eyes.
----- related clues to the catastrophe:
Hoaglund's "registration mark" has same elliptic eccentricity as perfectly circular crater nearby; is an unnatural feature of the Cydonia landscape. Correlate to the Roswell 97 Fox Special and photograph of large circular burn along a desert fence line. Indication may also correlate to darker lunar Mare found radioactive, and the strange "uniform banding" roof that looks like tiers of cast concrete ceiling.
[img]http://www.freewebs.com/writingindependence/CydoniaBurn.tiff[/img]
Martian high level slurry reservoir popped, perimeter seal of subterranean holding pond roof jetted sub critical fan vitrifying and blackening the characteristic circular band, floor gave away to crustal burrowing, arresting the breach through the roof; and being on the order of the length of the face, the structure under the surface correlated to the burn patter would be roughly a mile in diameter as well, potentially enough chaining material waste mass to head toward the lower mantle and upset hydrostatic equilibria resulting in a volcano as big as Arizona three times the height of Mt. Everest, and three others almost as big, as well as other unmistakable and conspicuous clues throughout the solar system.
Probable slave colony with very short life expectancy before replacement, may have shades of the movie "CONGO" to its utilization of earlier hominids or earlier genus homo, Habilus etc. Note the robust characteristics in the Mars rover skulls-photo, not looking sapiens.
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Re: Volcanic Ash Mummy like Pompeii's--on Mars!
Oct 3, 2008 12:31 PM
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Huh?
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Re: Volcanic Ash Mummy like Pompeii's--on Mars!
Oct 3, 2008 8:08 PM
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The 11,700 b.p. could be some kind of date or chemical reference, I'm not clear. -Don
BP
abbreviation for "years before present," a unit of time used in anthropology, geology, and paleontology. By international convention, the year 1950 CE (or AD) represents the present, so years "BP" are really years before 1950.
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