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Nov 22, 2009 9:10 AM
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At the beginning of the war almost half the US Marine Corps Officers and 100 enlisted men quit to form the Confederate States Marine Corps.
Semper Fidelis "Always Faithful".
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Re: US Marine Corps action
Nov 22, 2009 9:46 AM
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<rdfx wrote:
"At the beginning of the war almost half the US Marine Corps Officers and 100 enlisted men quit to form the Confederate States Marine Corps. ">
Don't know where you got your information but this website disagrees with you:
"Just as emotions associated with the Civil War tore the country apart, so did the Marine Corps fracture. While few enlisted men left the Corps; the officer ranks were decimated with more than 20 of 63 men resigning their commissions and 'going south.' Many of these were the best field officers of the Corps of the time. (Interestingly, even today, the majority of the Corps is composed of Marines from the south and south eastern United States.)"
http://www.mclm.com/gallery/uscivil_war.html
But either way, conversely then more than half of the US Marine Corps Officers and men remained with the US Marine Corps. I'm unsure of your point but thanks for pointing out that most remained "Faithful."
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Re: US Marine Corps action
Nov 22, 2009 10:32 AM
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Marine Major John G. Reynolds USMC, and his battalion were at the first battle of Bull Run.
July 21, 1861
When faced with the charge of the brave Virginians under Confederate General Stonewall Jackson, Reynolds battalion of US Marines ran from the action like little girls.
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Re: US Marine Corps action
Nov 22, 2009 10:50 AM
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rdfx
Just look at how well things ended for them......starving and beaten to a pulp.
They couldn't even defend their own "nation", let alone defeat the north...
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Re: US Marine Corps action
Nov 22, 2009 11:24 AM
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Dec 7, 1862.
Aboard the US steamship "Ariel"...
150 armed US Marines surrender to the CSS Alabama off Cuba.
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Re: US Marine Corps action
Nov 22, 2009 11:50 AM
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> Dec 7, 1862.
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> Aboard the US steamship "Ariel"...
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> 150 armed US Marines surrender to the CSS Alabama off
> Cuba.
Who would have thought it?
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Re: US Marine Corps action
Nov 22, 2009 12:06 PM
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<rdfx wrote:
"Aboard the US steamship "Ariel"...
150 armed US Marines surrender to the CSS Alabama off Cuba. ">
The Ariel was one ship that Semmes regretted attacking and seizing according to biographers Evangeline and Burke Davis. The U.S. Marines were personnel being transported for duty on ships in the Pacific while the remaining passengers were 500 women and children:
"Instead of being a homeward-bound steamer with a million dollars in her safe, I had captured an outward-bound steamer with five hundred women and children on board! This was an elephant I had not bargained for, and I was seriously embarrassed to know what to do with it."
Rebel Raider, A Biography of Admiral Semmes, Evangeline & Burke Davis, pg. 66
With 500 women and children aboard a passenger ship, are you suggesting that the accompaning 150 Marines armed with nothing more than rifled .58 calibre muskets, should of engaged an armed warship?
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Nov 22, 2009 12:13 PM
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Sound's like it was a real challenge for the mighty Rebel Navy.
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Re: US Marine Corps action
Nov 22, 2009 3:18 PM
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These guys were basically untrained recruits in their first action at Bull Run. They did run in that battle which was called a meeting between two armed mobs.
Notice how the Marine hymn has no mention of "the Plains of Manassas" to the Halls and Shores places?
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Re: US Marine Corps action
Nov 22, 2009 3:37 PM
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> These guys were basically untrained recruits in their
> first action at Bull Run. They did run in that
> battle which was called a meeting between two armed
> mobs.
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> Notice how the Marine hymn has no mention of "the
> Plains of Manassas" to the Halls and Shores places?
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I guess then one could say the Southern mob was better than the yankee mob. 
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Nov 22, 2009 3:58 PM
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"I guess then one could say the Southern mob was better than the yankee mob"
On that day, and on many occasions early in the war. How did that war end up? The final outcome is what matters.
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Nov 22, 2009 5:35 PM
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> I guess then one could say the Southern mob was
> better than the yankee mob.
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Either that or the southern mob outlasted the northern one.
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Re: US Marine Corps action
Nov 23, 2009 5:20 PM
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> rdfx
> Just look at how well things ended for
> them......starving and beaten to a pulp.
> They couldn't even defend their own "nation", let
> alone defeat the north...
360,000 Yankees lay dead from Southern fever, shot and steel.
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Re: US Marine Corps action
Nov 23, 2009 5:24 PM
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> "I guess then one could say the Southern mob was
> better than the yankee mob"
> On that day, and on many occasions early in the war.
> . How did that war end up? The final outcome is what
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> jasser
If jasser is right, we should not even have a forum such as this one.
" The final outcome is what matters."
Why would Yankee Sympathizers be on here everyday trying to justify their invasion?
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