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How many slaves died on Northern slave ships?
Nov 3, 2009 9:38 PM
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Northern slave ships packed slaves like sardines on their ships to make the most money.
They could care less if many slaves died during the Trans-Atlantic voyage on these Northern slave ships taking slaves from Africa and delivering them to America.
How many died?
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Re: How many slaves died on Northern slave ships?
Nov 4, 2009 1:56 AM
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rdfx,
You might be able to find some of the information you are looking for here.
The Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade.
http://www.slavevoyages.com/tast/index.faces
Note when you check the ship's names, the Captain's names, place of origin and destination, etc., you don't see a lot of Northern ships or Northern/US names.
I'm not saying you won't find any Northern ships involved in the slave trade, because there were. Perhaps you will be able to determine the number of slaves that died on such voyages on Northern ships involved in the slave trade.
But please, when you find the time after your research, tell me in all the years the slave trade was permitted in the US, how many Northern slave ship captains that sailed into a Southern port, had to put a gun to a Southern slaveholders head to force him to buy a slave.
Just curious.
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Re: How many slaves died on Northern slave ships?
Nov 4, 2009 5:25 AM
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And why exactly is a "northern" slave ship more important that any other slave ship?
If one was concerned about slavery, it wouldn't matter who transported them. A lot more Africans died after being enslaved here that they did on a slave ship.
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Re: How many slaves died on Northern slave ships?
Nov 4, 2009 5:50 AM
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> Complicity: How the North Promoted, Prolonged, and
> Profited from Slavery.
And so I ask you again... what difference does it make that both sides were complicit in the slave trade?
Slavery is a problem globally by the 1850s and the British were enforcing the Trans-Atlantic trafficking of slaves.
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Re: How many slaves died on Northern slave ships?
Nov 4, 2009 6:00 AM
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> And so I ask you again... what difference does it
> make that both sides were complicit in the slave
> trade?
After dozens of posts here that blame slavery on the South and try to falsely make the North look like the great liberators of slavery.
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Re: How many slaves died on Northern slave ships?
Nov 4, 2009 6:08 AM
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> After dozens of posts here that blame slavery on the
> South and try to falsely make the North look like the
> great liberators of slavery.
The cause of slavery is one thing on this forum in which I have NEVER seen a post.
The posts on this forum are about the politics of maintaining slavery as an economic system long after it was banned in most other places.
I've lived in the South nearly all my life. The South did every thing it could to keep slavery as a regulated institution. That's just a simple fact. This has nothing to do with civil rights or racial equality. There were nearly as many racists in the north as in the south. But the facts are that the South wanted to keep it as an institution... that's just the way it was.
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Re: How many slaves died on Northern slave ships?
Nov 4, 2009 6:08 AM
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Not one slave would have died, or been enslaved at all, if people had not been willing to buy them. If someone wants to buy something - anything - someone will deliver it to them. Southerners bought the vast majority of imported slaves, but chose not to operate all of the ships needed to carry them, so what would you expect to happen?
Incidentally the fast Baltimore cliipper schooners were popular slavers once the trade was made illegal.
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Re: How many slaves died on Northern slave ships?
Nov 4, 2009 6:12 AM
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"Southerners bought the vast majority of imported slaves"
This is true if you consider Cuba, South America and the West Indies to be Southerners.
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Re: How many slaves died on Northern slave ships?
Nov 4, 2009 6:13 AM
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How many slaves came to America on Confederate ships?
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Re: How many slaves died on Northern slave ships?
Nov 4, 2009 6:21 AM
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Rhode Island alone was responsible for half of all U.S. slave voyages.
The famous DeWolfs of RI may have been the biggest slavers in U.S. history.
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Re: How many slaves died on Northern slave ships?
Nov 4, 2009 6:22 AM
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"Southerners bought the vast majority of imported slaves"
This is true if you consider Cuba, South America and the West Indies to be Southerners.
Thanks, I should make that slaves imported to the thirteen colonies/United States.
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Re: How many slaves died on Northern slave ships?
Nov 4, 2009 6:28 AM
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Remember that there was slavery in all of the original 13 colonies. And slavery was legal in the North for over 200 years.
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Re: How many slaves died on Northern slave ships?
Nov 4, 2009 6:31 AM
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How many slaves came to America on Confederate ships?
None, or if any very few. Southerners had long since gotten all the slaves they needed, while they were under the United States, paying Yankee shippers to deliver most of them.
The Confederacy officially banned the slave trade, just as the US had since 1808. The principal source of new slaves was natural reproduction. Nonetheless, illegal slave imports to the southern states had continued, and no doubt there would still have been some had the Confederacy endured - or not been under Union blockade.
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Re: How many slaves died on Northern slave ships?
Nov 4, 2009 6:39 AM
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Even after the US banned the slave trade it still continued, even flourished. The US refused to enforce its own anti-slave trade laws.
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