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csa-today,
I do not know if you are aware or have been following of mine and Brian's posts on the matter in The Life of Billy Yank thread, but he & I have decided to debate one another on a topic concerning the American Civil War.
We have also agreed to have an open and fair debate with an agreed upon moderator to monitor said debate.
We both have agreed upon asking you to be our moderator for this upcoming debate, if you would be so inclined to be such.
I know of no other way to contact you other than to begin this thread with this post.
Please reply if you are interested or have any questions concerning this.
Sincerely,
Unionblue
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Belief does not make truth.
Evidence makes truth.
And belief does not make evidence.
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Nov 5, 2009 9:58 AM
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Unionblue,
> csa-today,
>
> I do not know if you are aware or have been following
> of mine and Brian's posts on the matter in The
> Life of Billy Yank thread, but he & I have
> decided to debate one another on a topic concerning
> the American Civil War.
>
> We have also agreed to have an open and fair debate
> with an agreed upon moderator to monitor said
> debate.
>
> We both have agreed upon asking you to be our
> moderator for this upcoming debate, if you would be
> so inclined to be such.
>
> I know of no other way to contact you other than to
> begin this thread with this post.
>
> Please reply if you are interested or have any
> questions concerning this.
>
> Sincerely,
> Unionblue
>
> --
> Belief does not make truth.
> Evidence makes truth.
> And belief does not make evidence.
I appreciate your confidence in me, but I am not your person. While I do try to be fair in my posting I am, nevertheless, an unabashed Southern partisan and that is not what you need for a moderator in an ongoing squabble involving two people with very different points of view. I’m not at all sure that you would find anyone on this forum free from bias, one way or the other, but in my opinion rhp6063 would be the closest.
"During a long life I have had to eat my own words many times, and I have found it a very nourishing diet."
Sir Winston Churchill
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Nov 5, 2009 10:05 AM
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This isn't about picking a winner, it's simply about keeping it open and honest.
it's simply about keeping it fair. UB challenged me to an "open and honest debate," and I simply refused on the grounds that he was neither open nor honest IMHO;and so it would require a moderator.
Likewise, the chosen issue is simply whether the states retained their national sovereignty within the Union.
If you think you can keep a neutral position-- which I think you can, being honest-- then just read the debate and smply step in if you think someone is arguing deceptively or dishonestly-- regardless of with whose conclusion whom you agree or disagree.
After all, if you already think you have a bias, then you'll know when you're BEING biased, and be able to refrain from asserting it.
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Nov 5, 2009 10:17 AM
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Frankly CSA, you could probably do this. I'm not sure being partisan would make any difference since most southerners don't know what TJ is talking about anyway. 
You don't have a bone to pick with either poster.
Of course you may not want to. It's not like like you'll gain from the experience.
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Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge - Charles Darwin
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Nov 5, 2009 10:24 AM
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> Of course you may not want to. It's not like like
> you'll gain from the experience.
It's also not like jpeter's opinion has a highly enviable track-record in terms of accuracy..
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Nov 5, 2009 10:30 AM
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Tom,
> This isn't about picking a winner, it's simply about
> keeping it open and honest.
>
> it's simply about keeping it fair. UB challenged me
> to an "open and honest debate," and I simply refused
> on the grounds that he was neither open nor honest
> IMHO;and so it would require a moderator.
>
> Likewise, the chosen issue is simply whether the
> states retained their national sovereignty within the
> Union.
>
> If you think you can keep a neutral position-- which
> I think you can, being honest-- then just read the
> debate and smply step in if you think someone is
> arguing deceptively or dishonestly-- regardless of
> with whose conclusion whom you agree or disagree.
>
> After all, if you already think you have a bias, then
> you'll know when you're BEING biased, and be able to
> refrain from asserting it.
Tom, I am not the right person for this sort a thing. For one thing, I have been real busy lately with other activities and don't have a lot of time for posting -- so thanks but no thanks.
"During a long life I have had to eat my own words many times, and I have found it a very nourishing diet."
Sir Winston Churchill
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Nov 5, 2009 10:37 AM
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> Tom, I am not the right person for this sort a thing.
> For one thing, I have been real busy lately with
> other activities and don't have a lot of time for
> posting -- so thanks but no thanks.
That's what I assumed, given your recent scarcity here; I suspect that's also why UB suggested you-- i.e. as a "token southerner" who mentioned time-constaints-- and thus knowing that you'd refuse, and so he'd be left with his two ringers in his never-ending quest to prove the untrue and impossible. I wondered what his "angle" was in suddenly demandng an "open and honest debate," and I suspect this is it
That's why I named those who post in the WWI forum,.
Thank you for your consideration anyway.
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Nov 5, 2009 11:18 AM
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I'm your huckleberry! 
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Nov 5, 2009 11:50 AM
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> I'm your huckleberry!
Sounds fine, but I don't think you're UnionBlueberry's slice of pie. It's up to him.
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Nov 5, 2009 1:05 PM
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> > I'm your huckleberry!
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> Sounds fine, but I don't think you're
> UnionBlueberry's slice of pie. It's up to him.
You're right. I could pass ajudgement on something he said and he would end up wanting to argue with me.
For his sake and yours, I am just funnin' widgyew anyhow.
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Nov 5, 2009 1:16 PM
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csa-today stated above:
> I appreciate your confidence in me, but I am not your
> person. While I do try to be fair in my posting I am,
> nevertheless, an unabashed Southern partisan and that
> is not what you need for a moderator in an ongoing
> squabble involving two people with very different
> points of view. I’m not at all sure that you would
> find anyone on this forum free from bias, one way or
> the other, but in my opinion rhp6063 would be the
> closest.
csa-today,
I appreciate your reply and your reason for not wanting to participate as a moderator between Brian and myself.
I also know that you are an "unabashed Southern Partisan" but I also know you to be fair and to debate your point of view with actual historical facts and sources.
I was not aware, in spite of Brian's unsupported speculation, that you have been busy elsewhere and feel you could not devote time to be a moderator.
Thank you again for your reply and your consideration on the matter.
Sincerely,
Unionblue
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Belief does not make truth.
Evidence makes truth.
And belief does not make evidence.
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Nov 5, 2009 1:18 PM
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>"During a long life I have had to eat my own words many times, and I have found it a very nourishing diet."
>Sir Winston Churchill
"I may be drunk, but you're ugly-- and I'll be sober in the morning."
Ibid.
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Nov 6, 2009 1:17 AM
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"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject."
Winston Churchill
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