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Give me proof on Creationism!!
Aug 11, 2005 5:27 PM
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All the people that believes in Creationism. I want you to give me poof that your myth is true. Type down the information that backs up your clams that Creationism works in nature life.
The only thing you can't use is the BIBLE.
P.S: Don't talk how evolution is not true or bad or immoral because that's not what I'm asking. If you do bring the bible or evolution is not true then I know and other people will know that you have nothing.
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Re: Give me proof on Creationism!!
Aug 11, 2005 5:33 PM
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> All the people that believes in Creationism. I want
> you to give me poof that your myth is true. Type down
> the information that backs up your clams that
> Creationism works in nature life.
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> The only thing you can't use is the BIBLE.
>
> P.S: Don't talk how evolution is not true or bad or
> immoral because that's not what I'm asking. If you do
> bring the bible or evolution is not true then I know
> and other people will know that you have nothing.
>
>
can't be proved to the standard science sets anymore then evilution can its all guessing as it wasn't observed and recorded.
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Re: Give me proof on Creationism!!
Aug 11, 2005 5:35 PM
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> > All the people that believes in Creationism. I
> want
> > you to give me poof that your myth is true. Type
> down
> > the information that backs up your clams that
> > Creationism works in nature life.
> >
> > The only thing you can't use is the BIBLE.
> >
> > P.S: Don't talk how evolution is not true or bad
> or
> > immoral because that's not what I'm asking. If you
> do
> > bring the bible or evolution is not true then I
> know
> > and other people will know that you have nothing.
> >
> >
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> can't be proved to the standard science sets anymore
> then evilution can its all guessing as it wasn't
> observed and recorded.
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>
> Dion
we can't back up our clams either lol ha ha .
Dion
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Re: Give me proof on Creationism!!
Aug 11, 2005 6:04 PM
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>
> can't be proved to the standard science sets anymore
> then evilution can its all guessing as it wasn't
> observed and recorded.
>
Yes but if it were true then we could extrapolate certain expections about the world from it, make predictions and find evidence that colaborates it.
Evolution can do all that, that is why it is science.
What predictions can you make about the world from the idea of creationism? What evidence is there that can colaborate these predictions? What tests can we preform to to see if the implied implications of creationism bare out.
Since creationism does fail by those standards it cannot be said to be as valid as evolution, as science, or even valid *full stop* as science.
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Re: Give me proof on Creationism!!
Aug 11, 2005 6:20 PM
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> >
> > can't be proved to the standard science sets
> anymore
> > then evilution can its all guessing as it wasn't
> > observed and recorded.
> >
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> Yes but if it were true then we could extrapolate
> certain expections about the world from it, make
> predictions and find evidence that colaborates it.
> Evolution can do all that, that is why it is
> science.
> What predictions can you make about the world from
> the idea of creationism? What evidence is there that
> can colaborate these predictions? What tests can we
> preform to to see if the implied implications of
> creationism bare out.
>
> Since creationism does fail on by those standards it
> cannot be said to be as valid as evolution, as
> science.
>
> Message was edited by Number36 at Aug 11, 2005 6:07 PM
First of all i want to say thank you numbers for helping me to understand more about elovution notice lol. No i think evolution should be pursued to tell you the truth but not established as fact yes their are facts in it but not fact itself i think we all can benefit from it after all it maybe the truth and the truth should be persued no matter where it leads even if it does lead to the destruction of religion. Right now though the world one is not ready for it to be held as fact it can't be proven to the point where it is undeniable and to tell you the truth evolution is not ready for the destruction of all religion because they have no back up plan you know even you must agree a bunch of people with no reason to live could be very dangerous for the earth after all the evilutionist community is argueing amongst it self we give them a reason not to start tearing each other apart because they fight us instead. Could you imagine a bunch of evilutionist on the planet no God no reason to behave onself because their is no after life waring it out whew litterally hell on earth lol. See so we need each other we don't advance without you and you don't tear each other apart without us.
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Re: Give me proof on Creationism!!
Aug 11, 2005 6:51 PM
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> Since creationism does fail by those standards it
> cannot be said to be as valid as evolution, as
> science, or even valid *full stop* as science.
After all i know me if science had not found bones of a neanderthal man so frequently i would have doubt as much of chirstianity i am betting would doubt he ever existed
it is better to know the truth then live a lie.
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Re: Give me proof on Creationism!! SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!!
Aug 11, 2005 8:29 PM
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Wait, we're suposed to talk about evolution. Did you give up on trying to come with proof/evidence for evolution?? Now you want to go down the road with creation?
SHOW ME THE MONEY!!! READ BELOW:
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BUT WAIT!, THERE'S MORE HOAXES:
http://www.creationeducation.org/presentation/humanevolution_not2.pdf
DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THE FOLLOWING ARE FACTS, PROOF, OR THERE IS EVIDENCE FOR THE FOLLOWING??:
1)The earth is billions of years old.
2)Animals have been observed changing into a fundamentally different kind of animal.
3)Life spontaneously arises from nonliving matter has been observed.
4)Matter makes itself out of nothing.
WOULD YOU PAY MONEY IF SOMEONE COULD PROVE THESE THINGS ARE FALSE?
http://www.drdino.com/seeArticle.php?artid=67
Quote from Dr. Kent Hovind ~
"If you are convinced that evolution is an indisputable fact, may I suggest that you offer $250,000 for any empirical or historical evidence against the general theory of evolution. This might include the following:
The earth is not billions of years old (thus destroying the possibility of evolution having happened as it is being taught).
No animal has ever been observed changing into any fundamentally different kind of animal.
No one has ever observed life spontaneously arising from nonliving matter.
Matter cannot make itself out of nothing."
With all the confidence expressed in evolution being a fact, you would think someone, (a college grant?) would take up this cause. talkorigin.com would do much better to debunk this offer by submitting "evidence" and then publicize the conclusions. Otherwise, they look pretty silly whining about how it is too hard. All other scientific facts are provable and have the evidence. I don't have a problem with evolution so much if we call it what it is - a belief system based on "faith." NOT a "scientific fact."
http://www.drdino.com/seeArticle.php?artid=67
Sincerely,
Easter
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Re: Give me proof on Creationism!!
Aug 11, 2005 9:42 PM
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Let's look at some scientific facts in the Bible...did you know there are many...but here are just a few (I wrote the scientific truth, Bible scripture that reveals the truth, and when man (scientists) discovered the truth:
"Earth is a sphere" (Isa. 40:22 - written 1000 B.C.) founded by man "scientists" 2,500 years later 1,500 A.D.
"The water cycle keeps the land watered" (Job 36:27-28; Eccles. 1:7; Amos 5:8 written approximately 1,900 BC) this truth discovered by man 1,600 years later
"Earth is suspended in space" (Job 26:7...written 1,900 years BC) discovered by man 3,600 years later in the 1700's
"The universe is running down" (Isa. 51:6; Psalm 102:26 written approximately 700 yrs BC) found by man 2,500 years later in the 1800's
"Ocean currents flow through the sea" (Ps. 8:8 written 900 years BC) discovered by man 2,800 years later in the 1800's
Here's the best one yet....."Blood sustains life" (Lev. 17:11 written 1400 years BC) figured out by man 3,300 years later in the 1800's.
There are several more, however, I just don't have the time right now. If you are interested, let me know. There is quite a bit of "science" in God's Word. Faith is another important aspect of believing in God.
Ask youself this, do you consider yourself to be a good person?
I'll check back later
L
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Re: Give me proof on Creationism!!
Aug 11, 2005 10:42 PM
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> Let's look at some scientific facts in the
> Bible...did you know there are many...but here are
> just a few (I wrote the scientific truth, Bible
> scripture that reveals the truth, and when man
> (scientists) discovered the truth:
>
> "Earth is a sphere" (Isa. 40:22 - written 1000 B.C.)
> founded by man "scientists" 2,500 years later 1,500
> A.D.
>
> "The water cycle keeps the land watered" (Job
> 36:27-28; Eccles. 1:7; Amos 5:8 written approximately
> 1,900 BC) this truth discovered by man 1,600 years
> later
>
> "Earth is suspended in space" (Job 26:7...written
> 1,900 years BC) discovered by man 3,600 years later
> in the 1700's
>
> "The universe is running down" (Isa. 51:6; Psalm
> 102:26 written approximately 700 yrs BC) found by man
> 2,500 years later in the 1800's
>
> "Ocean currents flow through the sea" (Ps. 8:8
> written 900 years BC) discovered by man 2,800 years
> later in the 1800's
>
> Here's the best one yet....."Blood sustains life"
> (Lev. 17:11 written 1400 years BC) figured out by man
> 3,300 years later in the 1800's.
>
> There are several more, however, I just don't have
> the time right now. If you are interested, let me
> know. There is quite a bit of "science" in God's
> Word. Faith is another important aspect of believing
> in God.
>
> Ask youself this, do you consider yourself to be a
> good person?
>
> I'll check back later
>
> L
LMPICK,
Let me guess, you are not a historian. The information you posted above is laughably incorrect.
-Man did not discover that the earth was round in 1500 AD. (I feel like I'm talking to a 3rd grader.) In fact, Eratosthenes calculated the earth's circumference in 250 BC.
The rest of your quotes are so vague and meaningless that I'm not even going to back them up. Simply put, this information was not new when it was written in the Bible.
If you want to learn about history (this is the History Channel website, you know). Check out this link about Greek Math & Science from about 700 BC.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_mathematics
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Re: Give me proof on Creationism!!
Aug 11, 2005 11:27 PM
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> All the people that believes in Creationism. I want
> you to give me poof that your myth is true. Type down
> the information that backs up your clams that
> Creationism works in nature life.
>
> The only thing you can't use is the BIBLE.
>
> P.S: Don't talk how evolution is not true or bad or
> immoral because that's not what I'm asking. If you do
> bring the bible or evolution is not true then I know
> and other people will know that you have nothing.
>
>
Frankly ACT10Npack, I don't have any poof to back up my clams.  Sorry, couldn't help myself.
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Re: Give me proof on Creationism!!
Aug 11, 2005 11:32 PM
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> Yes but if it were true then we could extrapolate
> certain expections about the world from it, make
> predictions and find evidence that colaborates it.
> Evolution can do all that, that is why it is
> science.
Number36,
You've said that evolution can do all that, but that's begging the question. That very issue is what we are debating. I don't think evolution can do all that.
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Re: Give me proof on Creationism!!
Aug 11, 2005 11:38 PM
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boccaccio, well done with your research and the guy did not example the earth was made in 6 days, and the world is only 6000 years old and the big global flood which are the main parts of Creationism.
link to a website why the earth is flat by using the bible. Flat earth for the bible
There are more then 15 different Bibles that different Christians follows. Did God change it's mine when he gave Christians to follow more then 15 times.
What bible has Eccles. 1:7?
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Re: Give me proof on Creationism!!
Aug 11, 2005 11:49 PM
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> boccaccio, well done with your research and the guy
> did not example the earth was made in 6 days, and the
> world is only 6000 years old and the big global flood
> which are the main parts of Creationism.
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> link to a website why the earth is flat by using the
> bible.
> Flat earth for the bible
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> There are more then 15 different Bibles that
> different Christians follows. Did God change it's
> mine when he gave Christians to follow more then 15
> times.
> What bible has Eccles. 1:7?
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> Message was edited by ACT10Npack at Aug 11, 2005
> 11:39 PM
Yes lol ha ha no its like science in this way some of it is found out to be nonsense it is test all the time by wise people all over the planet to see if it holds true and when we find out things like the sun doesn't circle the earth we have to scrap it. See the book of revelations has been riding on the fence a few times and i don't know if i like it. It scares me makes me wonder about the love of God and did i say it scares me like a the thought of falling into a supermassiveblack holes would oh that is such a scary thought stuck in time being crushed oh i don't know about that sounds scary lol. But if it holds a ring of truth we keep it and assume it is a close as we can get to the devine word of God.
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Re: Give me proof on Creationism!!
Aug 11, 2005 11:57 PM
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You didn't example nothing but Dion, everything you say does nothing. If you have proof then talk about the proof but nothing from your mouth is truth.
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