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'gulf war syndrome' in general population
Sep 28, 2004 8:46 AM
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We can thank the gulf war vets for bringing to our attention the 'stealth killer' of the century: 2-butoxyethanol poisoning. We are poisoning our troops then and now, and the general population, too, with a common cleaning and degreaser chemical. Painters, housewives, mechanics and many, many others are at risk. Especially those who clean up oil spills, as this was the chemical used during the Exxon Valdez oil spill cleanup, and it harmed a lot of people, workers and people in the area, as well. That's why I studied this chemical and I NEVER expected to learn what I have.
Its harm can be found; it may be the cause of the CFIDS' Chronic Fatigue and the reason doctors don't know what this fatigue is, is because it doesn't show up in the regular bloodwork as they expect it to.
Look for blood in urine. This chemical causes acquired autoimmune hemolytic anemia and for many years after an acute attack there will be at least trace blood in urine.
The reticulocyte count is very elevated with an acute attack, but over time may drop and drop. Soon someone may not even be making enough red blood cells.
The immune system is attacking the red blood cells, but the bone marrow covers it up by making the red blood cells at an accelerated rate: not only will there be blood in urine from the red blood cells that are prematurely being destroyed by one's immune system, but the red blood cells that are counted are not the normal ratio of mature to immature red blood cells. Too many will be immature.
This chemical is a pesticide, a poison and a solvent. It disrupts the glands. Blood sugar can go high or low; blood pressure can go high or low.
This chemical is the cause of many cancers, but it gets blamed for none of them. Check all cancer study groups for blood in urine and too many immature red blood cells. It is most especially the cause of leukemias, lymphomas, tumor of the brain ... & gland cancers
This chemical may harm the kidneys, the liver, all glands, AND the central nervous system resulting in short term memory loss, difficulty concentrating, extreme irritability, difficulty sleeping, suicidal tendencies AND all-the-time DEPRESSION.
It is the 'tornado' chemical. It comes and goes in 24-48 hours, but the human devastation is unbelievable. And we are even talking harm to the unborn. What a loss to our nations productivity and what a strain on the medical services and human services, insurance companies & even prison systems. Many become homeless, loose their families ... they cannot nurture their children, their spouses. They have 'accidents' on purpose.
Please check to see what you use and realize that it is not ingestion, but vapors in the eyes, and at the cuticle area that is the worst exposure to this chemical.
Protect Yourself From Future Harm
Check for what products contain 2-butoxyethanol
(CAS Registry Number: 000111-76-2)
in the Household Products Data Base
http://hpd.nlm.nih.gov/ingredients.htm
Also check for the complex version Diethylene glycol monobutyl ether or 2-2-butoxyethanol (CAS Registry Number: 000112-34-5) 5% concentration is not safe for home use, per one expert in product development.
If you want to know about a specific product you use, put the name of the product, comma, and then the letters MSDS (Stands for Material Safety Data Sheet) and the internet should be able to give enough choices that you can see if this chemical is in the product you are using.
People do not take the warnings seriously, but they should. Wear goggles and chemical retardant gloves and have ventilation equivalent to outdoors.
On the other hand, most of the time the ingredient is NOT disclosed and you have to know what type of warnings might indicate such. Something really needs to change here. A clean bathtub is not worth someone's life. The price we are paying is NOT worth the benefit received. It is an unnecessary harm.
More info http://www.ragereport.com/phpbb/nfphpbb/viewtopic.php?t=1065
http://www.valdezlink.com/check_blood.htm
Every one should be checking their own health, at least in blood and urine results; however, I have heard reports that the 'rules have changed' and the doctor can have the test results, but they don't have to be given to the patient when asked for.
This will most definitely impede our discovering the harm of this chemical. We have a national, unrecognized health crisis!
Living or dead, if there was enough medical information, you may find that the story can be 'put together'
If you have a lot of 'odd symptoms' such as described in 'gulf war syndrome' CFIDS, & undetermined cause of your fatigue, please participate in a preliminary health study of this chemicals harm
http://www.valdezlink.com/psa.htm
http://www.valdezlink.com/preliminary_health_survey.htm
http://www.valdezlink.com/health_survey_for_doctor.htm
This info restated here
http://www.valdezlink.com/thank_gulf_war_vets.htm
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Re: 'gulf war syndrome' in general population
Sep 28, 2004 2:30 PM
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Your post seems to be dangerous because it's like screaming fire in a crowded theater.
Gulf war syndrome was cause by exposure to the residue from depleted uranium shells. You can see this show sometime on THC. Depleted uranium shells are like a mini-nuclear explosion and as such the troops received low level radiation posioning. Its is dangerous to suggest that people in the general public can acquire this syndrome. THC show a person who went out to the battlefield, who buried tanks and trucks that had been hit by DU shells. Because of his exposure, he too is dying of the syndrome. But exposure to exploded depleted uranium shells is the only way you can get Gulf War syndrome.
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Sep 29, 2004 12:33 PM
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... and it does make sense. The deformed children, etc;
And I agree that to give you my conclusion which took me over two years of intensive 'seeking' ... in just a couple of paragraphs, is too big a hurdle.
This 2-butoxyethanol and diethylene glycol monobutyl ether (2-2-butoxyethanol) are exposures the troops had. http://www.valdezlink.com/same.htm
Note the first link on this web page, and you will see it was published in the Feb, 2003 book mandated by Congress on the solvents and pesticides gulf war troops were exposed to. (It is both of these, and known as a poison also by EPA and CA Janitorial study)
This chemical HAS NOT been studied! as far as a cause of 'Gulf War Syndrome,' that is.
Here is some good MSDS info on 2-butoxyethanol.
But I assure you, that to the best of my study of this chemical, it does all of the symptoms all by itself.
http://www.valdezlink.com/acute.htm
http://www.valdezlink.com/generic.htm#8
http://www.valdezlink.com/scenario.htm
It is also a teratogen, and damages the unborn and in some cases, with too much exposure, causes a man to become sterile and unable to father any chidren at all.
Second hand exposure is very strong ...
That is why spouses and children born before the gulf war, have come down with the 'syndrome' too.
If you look closely at the definitions of CFS, Chronic Fatigue Immune Dysfunction Syndrome, and "gulf war syndrome" ... they are nearly identical
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Some examples & doctor suggestions
Sep 30, 2004 11:36 AM
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The following on this web page - easier to read
Harmed by Simple Green
Here are more helps on how to find the fatigue,
then go to the first part of the thread
VERY valuable information!
Please share with your doctor!
Most doctors must see these patients regularly
... what Exxon did in 1989 that's how I learned about 2-butoxyethanol
... what the chemical companies did
We are talking about a lot of money ...
if the govt stops the use/sale of these chemicals
I wonder how much the US Dept of Defense has paid for these?
There is still harm to troops AND the average citizen
Today a man asked me about 'Scrubbing Bubbles'
Do you see anything of concern in these ingredients?
http://www.hescoinc.com/Msds/dr94386.pdf
This is what he quirried,
Hi, mother,
Do you think there is anything in that "scrubbing bubbles"type of bathtub cleaner? I used it lately and it worked well, and it occurred to me it was a lot like the miraculous results of 409. I had sprayed
the tub, and let it soak. When I took a shower, I realized I had not rinsed it off. I used my feet to "scrub the loosened grime off and it all came off. Nohing serious, but I noticed my feet were real dry last night.
clean too.
OK, I found Scrubbing Bubbles here:
http://www.hescoinc.com/Msds/dr94386.pdf
Size it up to the 100% and you will see the first listed ingredient
as diethylene glycol monobutyl ether (this is 2-2-butoxyethanol) at 10% strength that is definitely NOT safe.
Does this product have an EPA registered number on it?
I think it would have to,
Lysol 'Tub n Tile and Lysol Kitchen disinfectant do,
and I suspect this chemical on both,
but have just confirmed it on the 'tub n tile
Note that this Lysol product is 5.99% concentration of diethylene glycol monobutyl ether... and it states the EPA number and that this is a pesticide; but that the health hazard is minimal. That's an oxymoron!
What I have is made in Canada.
I dont see any EPA number.
Just curious, I guess, and more careful now.
OK, but other countries are worse than we are ... and we are HORRIBLE
about disclosure ... but still better than other countries
A worker bought a whole box of small paint spray cans... written in chinese or something ... I said, do you know how hazardous this must be? If you can't read the can, don't buy it
I must share that spray versions are the WORST, because the exposure to this chemical is at the cuticle area AND the eye membranes
Margaret
Yes, spraying in the bath tub kinda worried me. I guess I have clean lungs now right?
It is called: Power House - Powerful home cleaner. BATHROOM CLEANER
Distributed by Personal Care Products in Bingham Farms MI.
Will this subject ever "come out"?
I mean to the general public?
Jerry
PS What about "Goop"? Hand cleaner.
I am trying to get a handle on the products that are bad.
I used to use a lot of that
To everyone harmed with CFIDS, 'gulf war syndrome' symptoms, regardless of military or non-military, or service period ...
I can't tell you how much you are needed for this cause
The fatigue and the rest of it, I truly believe is from 2-butoxyethanol poisoning. This chemical has been around since the 1930s and in widespread use shortly after that.
The fatigue has not been found, but is findable; when all harmed by it are found to have hemolytic anemia - the proof is there
Even those who have died already may have had past medical info showing blood in urine, and too many immature red blood cells, or too elevated 'retic' counts with a severe attack
You are still fighting for the USA, soldier; we need your help
The concerns you voice have been stated by many, many people
No one is looking in the right direction, but when they do, the evidence will be remarkable.
Please hang in there, for us, for your buddies, for the newborns, for everyone
Share this web page with anyone who will receive your e-mails!
The research of Dr. Haley is very good; it is one aspect of 2-butoxyethanol's harm. It is true what he says and there is nothing in this diagnosis of the fatigue that would be contrary to that.
Most people look at the central nervous system damage;
but the fatigue is an area that all will look alike in, if I'm right;
YOU have the proof of my theory.
No one else must be harmed by this chemical
Once we get an accurate diagnosis, then a cure can be sought
YOU must not get any more exposure to it ... study up ... and avoid it!
Many cancer groups such as prostate cancer, and diabetes groups (those with sudden onset, very high blood sugar) should be checked for this chemical's harm: acquired autoimmune hemolytic anemia! even though there is nothing showing in the regular blood work to direct doctors in this direction.
This is a problem that many, many other citizen's have, but only because there was a group of wonderful soldiers that were stricken as a group ... can we see its harm.
I thank the gulf war vets for bringing this to our attention.
God bless you all; I am so sorry you have had to suffer so much
The studies on this chemical have been out there for decades, too;
but most of the time they test the mice and rats by ingesting the chemical;
that may amount to very little exposure,
but try misting it!
It's a tornado chemical, if you ask me; comes and goes quickly,
but leaves behind damaged DNA (?), Central Nervous system, but first and foremost,
it damages the BLOOD ... & you know the rest
www.valdezlink.com/hb_unravel_mystery.htm
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